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NJ5 said:
Squilliam said:
DMeisterJ said:
Well, who cares.

This got PS3 owners a good port with extra content of BioShock, an awesome game.

I'd be pretty happy with that result.

But if games don't sell after a delayed release why should they have even bothered?

It's all about the extra content. You see, if there was no extra content, Bioshock on PS3 would flop badly.

/sarcasm

Okay okay okay.

I'm not saying a game won't flop with added content, but it makes it less of a chance to not sell to frugal people who won't see the point of buying an old game with nothing added, at full price.



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NJ5 said:
Squilliam said:
DMeisterJ said:
Well, who cares.

This got PS3 owners a good port with extra content of BioShock, an awesome game.

I'd be pretty happy with that result.

 

But if games don't sell after a delayed release why should they have even bothered?

It's all about the extra content. You see, if there was no extra content, Bioshock on PS3 would flop badly.

DLC on 360 GTA4? No big deal. Extra content for PS3 Bioshock? OMG BUY THE GAME.

;)

 

I think you are the only one in this thread claiming that... What DMeisterJ is saying is that Sony must find a way to set their port apart from the rest.  Make it unique in some way without having to spend a ridiculous amount from a warchest and fight MS in a game they can't win.  I seriously see no point in debating this.  It's a troll thread and if you watch the video, it's clear that Carmack is out of his environment.  He's a PC developer trying to take his PC development knowledge and put it in a different industry.

 



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@Andir: I was being sarcastic. For the record, I don't think extra content is a big deal for most games, but it's nice to have.

@DMeisterJ: Agreed, unfortunately there is probably a group of customers who probably base their decisions on such things. I think people have too much information for their own good nowadays!

 



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Do you think the Microsoft doesn't have the same set of standards and rules? This is just good business. Part of the reason that multi-plats look the same on both platforms is that the platform holders demand it.



Thanks for the input, Jeff.

 

 

NJ5 said:
Squilliam said:
DMeisterJ said:
Well, who cares.

This got PS3 owners a good port with extra content of BioShock, an awesome game.

I'd be pretty happy with that result.

 

But if games don't sell after a delayed release why should they have even bothered?

It's all about the extra content. You see, if there was no extra content, Bioshock on PS3 would flop badly.

DLC on 360 GTA4? No big deal. Extra content for PS3 Bioshock? OMG BUY THE GAME.

;)

Totally different.

Exclusive Episodic Content that comes out after the game has been out for six months, and we still have no idea what it is, versus a game launching with Extra Content are wholly different.

 



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@DMJ: Refer to my latest reply ;) Sorry for the edit btw.



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NJ5 said:

@Andir: I was being sarcastic. For the record, I don't think extra content is a big deal for most games, but it's nice to have.

Therein lies the answer to your problem.  You don't care about extra content.  Some people do.  Therefore, this doesn't make sense to you. (edit: emphasis)

Thread done.

 



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@Andir: Well, first of all this thread is not about the extra content per se, it's about Sony's restriction towards developers. Isn't that pretty clear?

Second, I do care, I just don't think it's necessary enough to warrant this sort of measure from Sony, MS or Nintendo.

 



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Andir said:
NJ5 said:

@Andir: I was being sarcastic. For the record, I don't think extra content is a big deal for most games, but it's nice to have.

Therein lies the answer to your problem.  You don't care about extra content.  Some people do.  Therefore, this doesn't make sense to you. (edit: emphasis)

Thread done.

 

Most people don't care about extra content. So it doesn't make sense from a business perspective unless you've already made it. Ala downloadable content for the Xbox360 in this case.

 



Tease.

I am awaiting the Sony announcement that what he is saying is all BS... unless they can somehow spin it in their favour.

Even though this type of thing does have benefits to Sony and PS3 gamers in the forms of possible better graphics and exclusive content i.e Bioshock and Eternal Sonata.



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