I think they rushed it a bit, because there were so many rumours, they realised they had to get it out there because it became old news. Anyway, it is impossible to expect all devs to patch their games, but I would hope that most games this holiday do support them

Was it IGN that said that the Trophy system compared favorably vs. Achievements?

Agreed that they need to get more games using it.

Something's gotta give:

1. Do you want developers to cease production of current projects in-order to incorporate trophies in games that were completed several months back?

2. Or would you rather them finish currents projects on time with trophy support. then maybe devote resources to include trophies.

As a gamer I think I'd rather have option 2

I love my PS3, but acting like Sony has only had 2-3 weeks to get thier shit together is insane. The PS3 has been out for 1.5 years. Achivements have been a standard with thier direct competitor for 2.5 years.

Sony acts like they have kicked it into high gear when all they have done is throw fans a year old stale cookie crumb and more of the "just wait" line of crap.

Its been a while since I posted but FYI I am known as a flaming Sony fanboy. MS sucks & the Wii isnt a competitior in the HD home entertainment catergory. But Sony has let me down big time with trophies/in game XMB/Home.

No, I just think the overall system isn't good.  With achievements you have thing that are worth a specific amount, which trophies they are some obscure amount.

What does it take to get 5000 gamer points?  A lot of work.  What does it take to get to level 5?  I have no fucking clue.

I guess it's just a matter of do you like more abstract or exact.

I'm sure that new games down the road will start to implement then while some of the older games will get them added.

Well said, I certainly agree with you. I certainly dont want the PS3 to be affected by more delayed ports

You said 2.41, and 2.4 didn't go up May 30th.

Also Sony had to release trophies.  Developers aren't going to work on trophies when the system hasn't been implemented or finalized yet.

My mistake I knew it was July 2.(I am very tired I stayed up late last night getting my ass handed to me in CoD4.) Still that's almost three weeks of just one game supporting trophies.

I want to make it clear, I am in no way knocking the Trophy system, I like it, nor do I want devs to stop what they are doing and make trophies.

I get tired of the wait and see crap, and when I do see it finally, I have to wait longer to enjoy it. I wish they would have waited until they had more games supporting it. That was the point of the thread.

Yeah it's a good start and I really hope a lot of older games get patched/new games get trophies but it just seems like MS' system is better. 

The thing is even if it's not public there probably is some exact criteria for levels.

As in Level 4 requires X points and that could be Y silver trophies or (Y - 1) silver trophies and a bronze or something weird like that. Breaking trophies down into gold/silver/bronze (especially to display in Home) is a good idea but an overall GS would be nice.