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Pristine20 on 18 July 2008
SHMUPGurus said:
Of course you can have fun not playing the Wii. In fact, everyone should have fun playing their games. I think the concept of ''fun'' for the Wii is different by the fact that it has a very intuitive remote control, and you learn to have ''fun'' while exploring every single possibilities that the remote can do in different games. It offers different things to explore in every game.

Take for example Metroid Prime 3: Corruption. I've never had so much fun actually doing the gesture of pulling something out, but the Wii remote allowed that. Or take for example Mario Kart Wii, you actually control the kart like a real car (only in miniaturized version)! It's a different experience for everyone, I guess.

I'm not a big fan of racers but this can be done with a driving wheel in GT games. Are they not fun as well?

 



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Daddo Splat on 18 July 2008

Its fun cause granny can pown grampy at bowling and get thier game on.

saying somethings fun isnt saying something else isnt fun too.



disolitude on 18 July 2008
twesterm said:
disolitude said:
twesterm said:
It's fun because it's fresh and tries to get you into the game more (that whole immersion thing).

It was fresh in 2006...somewhat fresh in 2007. Today its just another control scheme pattern used by games...to me atleast.

 

 

It only feels like that because we still haven't had many mind blowing things, mainly only things of people not taking huge risks.  It will start to feel better as more developers (like High Voltage with Conduit for example) start doing more.  Even though FPS games have been done on the Wii, they're still fresh because we've had this standard for so long and games like Metroid Prime 3 and Conduit (hopefully) change that.

I have my doubts this will ever happen...but I hope you are right.

 



Pristine20 on 18 July 2008
mrstickball said:
Don't let the Nintendo fanboys define what is fun.

You can have fun playing Wii Sports, World of Warcraft, Call of Duty, Halo, Red Steel, Wii Play, or any game.

The whole concept behind a videogame is an interactive, video-based game that produces fun.

Fun might be re-inacting yourself as a soldier in a huge, epic battle, or fighting monsters in a great, well-storied fantasy land. It might be in playing virtual tennis, or a golfing game.

Fun doesn't mean gameplay over technology. The best RPG of all time, as cited by most VGC-ers, and elsewher, Chono Trigger (and/or Final Fantasy VII, depending on who you ask) both used groundbreaking technology, and gameplay elements when they came out. So did Mario, Mario 64, and Wii Sports.

For myself, I will take a well-writen good RPG over most other genres, as I like to feel emotion, and get involved in the characters that I play as, rather than a quick, stupid game of . I've always been a fan of long, epic games, because that is what is fun for me. Monopoly might be fun to you, but not to me. Risk or Axis & Allies is more of my type of board game. To each his own. When you have someone say "only this is fun" or "because if has tons of graphics, it's not fun" - Wasn't Star Wars a fun movie to watch in the early 1970's? All of those superb top-notch graphics? It was amazing to see, even in the 90s as a kid for me. Likewise, seeing the Matrix, and the new filming techniqes the director(s) and staff used was groundbreaking, and "fun" for me because I like action and kung-fu movies.

So anyone that says that technology over gameplay isn't fun needs to buy an Atari 2600 then, seriously.

Same here. This is the single most important experience I want to have in a game: Immersion in a world different from the one in which I currently reside

 



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

mike_intellivision on 18 July 2008

Pristine

You and others like you (males age 15-34) probably don't get the Wii because it really is not targeted toward you.

Please do not take this as an insult. It just means that at different ages/stages in life people have different tastes. There are certain things that I did in my 20s that I would never do in my 40s. Time and people change.

I love RPGs. But I don't have time for them now. So a quick burst of gaming is all I can do. Thus, the Wii appeals to me. I also don't have to worry about most of the game content when my 5 year old son enters the room. And things are simple enough that he can play.

Fun is a subjective term. I honestly don't get why people go to slasher (or worse) movies. But people do and they make money. I accept that I cannot understand their rationale and move on. That is what a lot of "hardcore" gamers need to do with regard to the Wii.

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Pristine20 on 18 July 2008
twesterm said:
It's fun because it's fresh and tries to get you into the game more (that whole immersion thing).

 

 Actually wii games seem more shallow to me i.e you're supposed to be "smiling" all the time but I want to laugh, smile , be shocked (not cry because my machismo is at stake lol), feel pity, get frustrated also. One of the reasons FF7 was so epic was the shock of Aeris unexpected death.



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

SmokedHostage on 18 July 2008

I guess Pristine is destined to forever to be a basement nerd..



Pixel Art can be fun.

Pristine20 on 18 July 2008
tabsina said:

 i don't know how to explain to someone why i have fun.. it brings a smile to my face and the faces of others when we play.. i have no idea why that happens.. maybe the games are good

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also @OP, i like how you can only come up with wii music right after you say "wii owners are the ones who claim to have fun" even though not one wii owner has played wii music, let alone said it was fun to play it.. if you can come up with an actual example, then people may be able to reply with more substance

 

 I used wii music because I just read about how it didn't even have a scoring system on kotaku and was thinking...how is this even a game when you just wave the controller and music keeps playing? You can't really argue that the wii crowd don't use the word "fun" all the time!



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

Resident_Hazard on 18 July 2008

Why is the Wii the only system that gets these kinds of pointless threads?

You never see a "What's so great about a PS3?" followed by some lengthy diatribe about how "there's a PS3 in my house, it belongs to my gay uncle, but in all the high-def gay porn he has on Blu-Ray, I just don't see what makes it so great."

Do some people really hate the Wii that much? How mentally disturbed must a person be when this kind of thread seems like a good time filler? What, are the cops cracking down on the park where you stalk the elderly and you need to redirect your hatred elsewhere?

Don't like the Wii? Don't fucking play it. How bloody hard is that?



Want a better response as to why people feel the Wii is "fun" where some of the more hardcore titles don't get that? Well, there are a lot of "hardcore" games I've played that don't feel like video games. They feel like, oh, shall we say, work. You have 25 mission objectives and must move together with a group of other soldiers in a complex plan to overtake some complex. In my job, that's fucking work. You've got planning and coordination that must be followed in all these ways and all these tools and weapons at your disposal which must be used in specific ways and pretty soon I want to fucking stand up and take my authorized 15-minute break FROM ALL THE WORK.

In Super Mario Galaxy, you run around open worlds exploring nooks and crannies and solving puzzles and by god if that doesn't feel like a breath of fresh air in a world crowded with FPS missions, objectives, and every single game trying for 100% realism rather than artistic creativity. It's why I have this slight uneasiness when I see footage of Resident Evil 5. I can't help but look at that and be reminded of Gears of War or Army of Two. Resident Evil is supposed to be fun because it's survival horror and there are scares around every corner. I don't want it to feel like work, like some run-of-the-mill military/squad-based FPS title. That's why the Wii feels fun to people with it's assorted collection of sometimes lame software.

Because it feels like a game rather than work. Many of these titles don't take themselves so damn seriously. I have enough responsibilities in real life to deal with (more than any of you know), so I'm perfectly happy playing something now and then that gives me fun challenges (like Geometry Wars or Mario Galaxy), rather than a laundry list of work to do to solve missions. This isn't to say that I hate FPS games (as I'm very much looking forward to The Conduit), but to have something that's geared around simple fun that takes the edge off rather than adding to it in a virtual plain is just damn refreshing.



twesterm on 18 July 2008
Pristine20 said:
twesterm said:
It's fun because it's fresh and tries to get you into the game more (that whole immersion thing).

 

 Actually wii games seem more shallow to me i.e you're supposed to be "smiling" all the time but I want to laugh, smile , be shocked (not cry because my machismo is at stake lol), feel pity, get frustrated also. One of the reasons FF7 was so epic was the shock of Aeris unexpected death.

 

Like I said above, different kind of immersion.