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windbane on 16 July 2008
RolStoppable said:
shams said:

Yup, exactly. It seems like a crazy concept, but maybe Ninty are just trying to destroy "hardcore" gamers/games in general? Be in interesting war (casuals + Ninty vrs Sony/MS + hardcore) - MS defect to casual at the last moment, and stab Sony in the back?

As Kenology said - its not like the hardcore games don't exist - they do. But Nintendo INTENTIONALLY decided to not show ANY of them. It was a very calculated and intended statement - I'm just trying to work out the real reason behind this.

(i.e. if they would have finished the conference with a 10-30sec montage of footage from MadWorld, Fatal Frame, .. (etc).. it would have changed everything, cost nothing - and appeased the hardcore to some degree - but they DIDN'T on PURPOSE).

...

Maybe its a deprevation strategy? Deprive the hardcore of their games enough, and when they DO get shown - they go even more insane/rabid than normal?

Or maybe the strategy is all about keeping hardcore *very* quiet, and putting out a "casual only" impression to enforce to the market that it is "casual or broke"?

I thought the focus of Nintendo's media summit was to take down the psychological barrier preventing people to play videogames. Notice how every game that was shown for more than a few seconds should have a big appeal to people who would hesitate to play a game.

Animal Crossing is very focused on being a social experience. The thought that games are for lonely people who sit in dark rooms is more than just neutralized with Animal Crossing.

Bottom line: If you want gaming to grow, you should show games that can do just that. After all, the important media outlets watching the conference aren't IGN etc., but the mainstream press.


Excuse me, but Animal Crossing is basically Home.



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windbane on 16 July 2008
RolStoppable said:
windbane said:

Excuse me, but Animal Crossing is basically Home.

And your point is what? That Sony copied Nintendo yet again?

EDIT: On second thought, AC and Home are quite different. AC is a very social experience while Home is aimed at people who play alone at their... home.


This new Animal Crossing is a reponse to Home. You organize your furniture then invite friends in to see it. They both have voice chat, but Sony's is better. The whole point of Home was social interactivity, so I'm not sure why you had that "second thought."



Kurakasa on 16 July 2008
windbane said:
RolStoppable said:
windbane said:

Excuse me, but Animal Crossing is basically Home.

And your point is what? That Sony copied Nintendo yet again?

EDIT: On second thought, AC and Home are quite different. AC is a very social experience while Home is aimed at people who play alone at their... home.

This new Animal Crossing is a reponse to Home. You organize your furniture then invite friends in to see it. They both have voice chat, but Sony's is better. The whole point of Home was social interactivity, so I'm not sure why you had that "second thought."

Because nintendo-gamers are always social and ps360 gamers just sit alone in their dark lairs... I guess? :D

 



windbane on 16 July 2008
Kurakasa said:
windbane said:
RolStoppable said:
windbane said:

Excuse me, but Animal Crossing is basically Home.

And your point is what? That Sony copied Nintendo yet again?

EDIT: On second thought, AC and Home are quite different. AC is a very social experience while Home is aimed at people who play alone at their... home.

This new Animal Crossing is a reponse to Home. You organize your furniture then invite friends in to see it. They both have voice chat, but Sony's is better. The whole point of Home was social interactivity, so I'm not sure why you had that "second thought."

Because nintendo-gamers are always social and ps360 gamers just sit alone in their dark lairs... I guess? :D

 


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FinalEvangelion on 16 July 2008

Wow, alot of Nintendo fanboys are now admitting to what we people that have been labeled Sony fanboys have been saying all along. I knew that during the early days of the Wii that Nintendo was completely shunning one of their markets away.

They are definitely not the same company I loved NES through the GameCube. Even in the darkest days of the GameCube, I loved Nintendo. The PS3, Xbox 360, and PC do just fine for me this generation as I care more about games than sales charts. The sales charts on the Wii hasn't really done much to make things better for me, quite frankly.



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Sullla on 16 July 2008

windbane said:

This new Animal Crossing is a reponse to Home. You organize your furniture then invite friends in to see it. They both have voice chat, but Sony's is better. The whole point of Home was social interactivity, so I'm not sure why you had that "second thought."

Animal Crossing is a reaction to Home? Wow... I'm speechless. Historical revisionism for the win!

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