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So E3 seems to be going well. Day one we had half of the Playstation fans up in arms and claiming it's the end of the world because FFXIII is no longer an exclusive. We also heard a ton of people claiming that despite that MS's conference was weak. The biggest game talked about at their conference wasn't even their annoucnement, and wasn't an exclusive. Fast forward to today, and we have half of the Nintendo fans up in arms about Nintendo's conference, with it's lack of "hardcore" gmes for the Wii announced and just a generally underwhelming batch of annoucements overall. One only wonders what will come of the reaction to the Sony conference (though maybe, as per SSJ12, they'll blow us all away).

Now, I don't disagree with any specific point made by anyone. It is a blow for Sony to lose exclusivity for FFXIII (though it doesn't really affect any of us). Microsoft did have very little interesting to show (ooh! Avatars! Way to go! Lips! Wow!). Same for Nintendo. However, I think the reactions are a bit apopleptic. A weak E3 doesn't spell the end of your console of choice, and there are a few reasons why no one should be reacting like this after a day and a half:

1. The show isn't over. Third parties will most likely have some interesting things to say. Game demonstrations might change a lot of opinions. What made Wii Sports a sensation wasn't just the announcement, but the playable demo at the Nintendo booth. Sony might not talk too much about Little Big Planet, which is pretty well established at this point, but I could see it having becoming a playable phenomenon just like the aforementioned Wii Sports was. More excitement is most likely in store, so cool your jets.

2. E3 has changed. It's become this crazy, enormously covered, massively attended mecca. Which means the audience for E3 has changed. In the biggest spotlight in gaming, with it's big 'ol blue ocean, we've seen announcements for Wii Sports II, Wii Music, a GTA game (which thanks to it's notoriety has as much mainstream value as Wii Sports or such), Avatars and Lips. These are not necessarily things tht would be the center of any company's platform (well, minus the GTA announcement) pre-2005. But the rules are different now, and so the console companies (or at least two of them) are going for that audience. That doesn't mean there isn't other stuff in the pipeline, it just means this is no longer the preferred venue to showcase that stuff. Hell, we know Kid Icarus is coming. Perhaps Nintendo thought that at a conference viewed and covered by millions it made more sense to show the things that will appeal to the most people rather than a new game in a franchise that has only ever seen one other game, and that was over 20 years ago? Simply put, Animal Crossing and the Wii series are bigger franchises than Kid Icarus. I, like most of you, would probably prefer a Kid Icarus game (as long as it's good), but tht just isn't E3 anymore.

Have faith. Good things will come to us video game fans. As Yogi Berra said, it ain't over til it's over.



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jalsonmi said:

So E3 seems to be going well. Day one we had half of the Playstation fans up in arms and claiming it's the end of the world because FFXIII is no longer an exclusive. We also heard a ton of people claiming that despite that MS's conference was weak. The biggest game talked about at their conference wasn't even their annoucnement, and wasn't an exclusive. Fast forward to today, and we have half of the Nintendo fans up in arms about Nintendo's conference, with it's lack of "hardcore" gmes for the Wii announced and just a generally underwhelming batch of annoucements overall. One only wonders what will come of the reaction to the Sony conference (though maybe, as per SSJ12, they'll blow us all away).

Now, I don't disagree with any specific point made by anyone. It is a blow for Sony to lose exclusivity for FFXIII (though it doesn't really affect any of us). Microsoft did have very little interesting to show (ooh! Avatars! Way to go! Lips! Wow!). Same for Nintendo. However, I think the reactions are a bit apopleptic. A weak E3 doesn't spell the end of your console of choice, and there are a few reasons why no one should be reacting like this after a day and a half:

1. The show isn't over. Third parties will most likely have some interesting things to say. Game demonstrations might change a lot of opinions. What made Wii Sports a sensation wasn't just the announcement, but the playable demo at the Nintendo booth. Sony might not talk too much about Little Big Planet, which is pretty well established at this point, but I could see it having becoming a playable phenomenon just like the aforementioned Wii Sports was. More excitement is most likely in store, so cool your jets.

2. E3 has changed. It's become this crazy, enormously covered, massively attended mecca. Which means the audience for E3 has changed. In the biggest spotlight in gaming, with it's big 'ol blue ocean, we've seen announcements for Wii Sports II, Wii Music, a GTA game (which thanks to it's notoriety has as much mainstream value as Wii Sports or such), Avatars and Lips. These are not necessarily things tht would be the center of any company's platform (well, minus the GTA announcement) pre-2005. But the rules are different now, and so the console companies (or at least two of them) are going for that audience. That doesn't mean there isn't other stuff in the pipeline, it just means this is no longer the preferred venue to showcase that stuff. Hell, we know Kid Icarus is coming. Perhaps Nintendo thought that at a conference viewed and covered by millions it made more sense to show the things that will appeal to the most people rather than a new game in a franchise that has only ever seen one other game, and that was over 20 years ago? Simply put, Animal Crossing and the Wii series are bigger franchises than Kid Icarus. I, like most of you, would probably prefer a Kid Icarus game (as long as it's good), but tht just isn't E3 anymore.

Have faith. Good things will come to us video game fans. As Yogi Berra said, it ain't over til it's over.

Personally, I haven't seen many people who are Wii fans (really) all that upset by Nintendo's announcements; some of them are a little disapointed but (for the most part) the "outrage" comes from people who have constantly bashed the Wii since it was announced ...

 



@HappySqurriel,

I kind of noticed the same thing as well, but there are some actual Wii fans/supporters upset as well, although most of the real fans aren't foaming at the mouth about it.

@OP,

I agree with your underlying point completely.



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Sqrl said:
@HappySqurriel,

I kind of noticed the same thing as well, but there are some actual Wii fans/supporters upset as well, although most of the real fans aren't foaming at the mouth about it.

@OP,

I agree with your underlying point completely.

I´m not upset, well just a little, but we know that some games are coming, and since they are in the very early stages of develop probably they didn´t wanted to show them at this point... to be honest a really want a proper use of the MotionPlus on a good 3rd party game...

 



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Excellent post. It certainly occurred to me that some people might have flawed expectations about what would be shown at E3.

After all, despite showing off MP3 and SMG last E3, Nintendo's biggest announcement was Wii Fit. That's not because MP3 and SMG weren't important and high-quality games, but because Nintendo wanted to grab mainstream press attention for Wii Fit at one of the few times when the mainstream press is actually looking at games.

When the mainstream is watching, you don't want to show them anime characters in silly outfits and ridiculously overmuscled space marines gutting aliens. You want to show them stuff like Wii Fit and Lips.



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