Man, I was never into this Blu-ray vs HDDVD war ever since i sold all my Sony shares during a mini Asia stock market crash months ago. But is LordTheNightKnight always this bitter? It seems like you really try to go out on a limb when you tell everyone how less you think anything pro-Bluray matters and seem to always be on the negative side of the "blu-ray" spectrum....

anyways, we all know there will be a time where the majority of consumers move on to HD video and broadcasting, having only one format will speed things up.

The thing was that he was not only posting on a site that wasn't neutral, but that he wording is like the joke way people try to be vague.* Either that, or you gave me a bad sample of his posts.

*Something like, "Well the guy said to me, in that place, that it's going down at that time, so bring that thing." Could he at least give a code? 

Ding dong hddvd is dead.

poor toshiba, then again they were dumb enough to go up against th ePS brand with a xbox add on so they do deserve their failure.

I'm actually not that bitter about blu-ray. The format has promise, and if HD-DVD were to finally go, I hope the BDA can merge some of the advantages of HD-DVD into blu-ray's tech (Warner might even push for that, since they apparently have some patents there).

I'm more bitter about lying jerks pretending this is some kind of contest, and ignoring facts they don't like. The fact is that we haven't seen either format with an opening over 200k (or 170k depending on Transformers disputed opening), and I'm not even sure a single HDM as sold 1 million copies so far, as neither format has touted such a number (and I think we know they would). With movie sales still in this niche, can Warner's switch really get HDM into the mainstream?

I would think finally having must-have films in HD would matter first, and that has yet to happen. Neither format has its Matrix 1 yet. And I know why that was the first must-have for DVD. It's a film some wanted to watch over and over again to catch everything, and never having to rewind was a big thing for that kind of film. In other words, the nature of the film watching experience went hand-in-hand with the format. We have yet to see a film do that for HD, not to the mainstream.

Me, I don't have either format because I haven't seen a must-have HD film. The closest were Goodfells and Casino, but the fact that thare are just on HD-DVD is irrelevant, since I don't think those are enough for me to abandon regular DVD. The Simpsons Movie would have been the first blu-ray I would want, but Fox blew it by not having any HD exclusive features, even PiP. 

Now that the fear of buying a dead format has been removed, I think sales will being to grow at a faster rate than they were previously. Especially with all the new players in people's homes from the price cuts and holiday season. Once people see some tier 0 HD releases like PotC on Blu-Ray (much better PQ and AQ than cable/satellite/OTA HD), it's hard to go back to SD.

Low HDTV adoption is the real kicker here. Even if 100% of HDTV owners bought into HDM, that would still be less than 30% of the overall market.

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/1327

In case you hadn't heard, HDTV adoption is acceleration, but survey still show consumers don't know about the HD formats in the first place. So this claim is based on two faulty facts. Fear of two formats cannot be a factor if people are unaware of even one format.

lol, so this is the end? =))

Great news for PS3, people will now buy more ps3 in usa, because it has a winning format to play HD moovies. =)

Anyway, that would be really funny, if on next week ps3 will get a boost in usa.

Warner: New Line, HBO Not Covered By Blu-ray Announcement

Fri Jan 04, 2008 at 08:35 PM ET

Though it's widely expected that Warner Bros. subsidiaries New Line and HBO will follow Warner Home Entertainment to Blu-ray exclusivity, for the moment they remain format-agnostic.

That's according to Warner Home Entertainment President Kevin Tsujihara, who said that the studio's announcement that it would drop HD DVD support does not extend to titles released by New Line, HBO or the BBC (which Warner distributes here in the US).

"They'll be making whatever decision they're going to make," said Tsujihara. "I assume they'll let people know very quickly, but they are not covered by this initial announcement."

Tsujihara's comments came in a post-announcement conference call with various members of the media, including High-Def Digest.

Stay tuned for more news from the Warner conference call...

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Yet this does mean a LotR trilogy is still likely on both formats.

 I see this happening but not yet, maybe next holiday season.