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NJ5 said:

Yeah, it's probably easy to have great BR "sales" when you're throwing them around in all directions.

 


Actually, with HDDVD players there is a similar promotion with purchasers getting 5 free HDDVD movies. 



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kber81 said:
WiteoutKing said:
This thread, and all the bickering in general between Blu-Ray and HD-DVD people makes me glad I don't give half a shit about it. I'm more than glad to let DVD run its course for a few more years, at the least. Try again next decade, thanks.

It looks like you care enough to post in this topic... Thanks to you for your valuable contribution.


 No problem, glad to do my part.  Fighting the good fight and all that.



PS3: 5.51m/51w, avg 108,039/w (up 239)
360: 12.93m/102w, avg 126,764/w (up 625), leads PS3 by 7.42m (up 70k), avg lead 18,725/w (up 386)
Wii: 13.52m/51w, avg 265,098/w (dn 1,102), leads PS3 by 8.01m (up 90k), avg lead 157,059/w (dn 1,341)

If 360 sales stabilize, PS3 sales increases needed to pass 360 by...
01/08: (008w) +875.8%, 04/08: (021w) +344.4%, 07/08: (034w) +219.3%, 10/08: (047w) +163.5%
01/09: (060w) +131.8%, 04/09: (073w) +111.4%, 07/09: (085w) +098.1%, 10/09: (099w) +086.7%
If Wii sales stabilize, PS3 sales increases needed to pass Wii by...
01/08: (008w) +1072.%, 04/08: (021w) +498.4%, 07/08: (034w) +363.4%, 10/08: (047w) +303.1%
01/09: (060w) +269.0%, 04/09: (073w) +246.9%, 07/09: (085w) +232.6%, 10/09: (099w) +220.3%
If PS2 sales freeze, Wii sales increases needed to pass PS2 (as of Mar07, 108.4m) by...
2008: (008w) +4373.8%, 2009: (060w) +0496.5%, 2010: (112w) +0219.6%, 2011: (165w) +0116.9%
2012: (217w) +0064.9%, 2013: (269w) +0033.1%, 2014: (321w) +0011.5%, 2015: (376w) -0004.8%
At +0% it will pass it in 358w, the week ending September 19th, 2014, at an age of 409w (7y44w).
Current age of PS2: 7y37w.

Last update: Week ending November 3, 2007

the problem with the free 5 discs is you dont' really get to choose, you only get to choose 1 from 5 categories that include 2 or 3 discs.



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NJ5 said:

Yeah, it's probably easy to have great BR "sales" when you're throwing them around in all directions.

 


promotions dont count towards sales unless its rung up in store and given for free and HD DVD has had this same promotion for the last 3 months, not to mention 2 free movies (that counted toward sales) with the purchase of the matrix set as well....so for a $250 player in june and the $70 matrix set you got The player, The Matrix set (3 movies) plus 2 of you choice from the store (which counted toward sales) and then 5 free mail in movies.....so thats be 10 movies and the player for $330.........but i see that had little effect on the sales ratio....way to comment on something you know nothing about, just because you hate the PS3 and Sony doesnt mean you know diddly abouteverything Sony does, as proven by your post.



http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Wal-Mart/High-Def_Retailing/Wal-Mart_Offers_New_Blu-ray_Player/Disc_Bundle__/767

Wal-Mart are now have a promo for Sony's BDP-S300. They have reduced the price to $488 (from $499 ) and are giving away 2 BDs (7 in total with the official BDA promo).



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steverhcp02 said:
NJ5 said:

Yeah, it's probably easy to have great BR "sales" when you're throwing them around in all directions.

 


promotions dont count towards sales unless its rung up in store and given for free and HD DVD has had this same promotion for the last 3 months, not to mention 2 free movies (that counted toward sales) with the purchase of the matrix set as well....so for a $250 player in june and the $70 matrix set you got The player, The Matrix set (3 movies) plus 2 of you choice from the store (which counted toward sales) and then 5 free mail in movies.....so thats be 10 movies and the player for $330.........but i see that had little effect on the sales ratio....way to comment on something you know nothing about, just because you hate the PS3 and Sony doesnt mean you know diddly abouteverything Sony does, as proven by your post.


Any sources for that? I made a pretty generic claim, but yours is quite specific, so go ahead and prove it.

 



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Yeah, BD has an almost 4:1 sales over HDDVD this week b/c promotions have been going great.

Anyway, here are this past week's stats:
http://www.dvdempire.com/Content/Features/hidef_wars.asp?view=1&userid=99365843813776



NJ5 said:
steverhcp02 said:
NJ5 said:

Yeah, it's probably easy to have great BR "sales" when you're throwing them around in all directions.

 


promotions dont count towards sales unless its rung up in store and given for free and HD DVD has had this same promotion for the last 3 months, not to mention 2 free movies (that counted toward sales) with the purchase of the matrix set as well....so for a $250 player in june and the $70 matrix set you got The player, The Matrix set (3 movies) plus 2 of you choice from the store (which counted toward sales) and then 5 free mail in movies.....so thats be 10 movies and the player for $330.........but i see that had little effect on the sales ratio....way to comment on something you know nothing about, just because you hate the PS3 and Sony doesnt mean you know diddly abouteverything Sony does, as proven by your post.


Any sources for that? I made a pretty generic claim, but yours is quite specific, so go ahead and prove it.

 


 

 Its common knowledge that promotions are paid for by teh promoting group in this case the BDA or HD DVD Association, its how pormotions work, if you mail away for such a sale it is not counted as a sold disc its promotional, if you get 2 free discs with the purchase of a movie (Matrix) and its rung up at teh counter that ring up sends the data to information colection that the disc has passed the counter and is marked sold even though they are rebating the cost immediately.

Like i said, if you dont know what youre talking about just pass along and dont comment, some of you see sony or Blu Ray and just put your foot in your mouth and then when someone puts you in your place you stomp your foot and demand links, maybe you should do some research before you run your mouth off, i dont owe you any links for your ignorance or laziness.

What am i supposed to prove that the Matrix was being old over fathers day with 2 free discs and a HDA2 price drop? Am i supposed to show you links for something that is COMMON FREAKIN KNOWLEDGE to anyone who has remotely followed BDA or HDDVD? Just because you come here smelling something positive for Sony dont get on your high horse and demand info to be fed to you for your ignorance of not knowing what teh f*ck youre talking about when you start making condescending comments that arent true at all about promotional sales counting towards nielson.



I don't know why any HD-DVD supporters are complaining about the 5 free Blu-Ray promotion. The HD-DVD group did the same thing. Even during that promotion, Blu-Ray steadily outsold HD-DVD every week. HD-DVD has only come close to winning one week since the beginning of the year, and that was the week Smokin' Aces came out. One or two weeks ago, HD-DVD literally had 15 more releases than Blu-Ray (Blu-Ray had about 2), and Blu-Ray STILL managed to outsell HD-DVD. This was after the Blockbuster announcement, which has eroded some of HD-DVD's support. Go check the Nielsen Home Media Magazine if you want to verify the numbers I gave. The YTD sales ratio is 67% Blu-Ray and 33% HD-DVD. Pretty consistent trend if you ask me.

HD-DVD is not dead, but it is dying, and it will continue to die. Anyone who still has their money on HD-DVD is either an idiot, a desperate early adopter, or unaware of Blu-Ray's much stronger hand against HD-DVD.



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akuma587 said:
I don't know why any HD-DVD supporters are complaining about the 5 free Blu-Ray promotion. The HD-DVD group did the same thing. Even during that promotion, Blu-Ray steadily outsold HD-DVD every week. HD-DVD has only come close to winning one week since the beginning of the year, and that was the week Smokin' Aces came out. One or two weeks ago, HD-DVD literally had 15 more releases than Blu-Ray (Blu-Ray had about 2), and Blu-Ray STILL managed to outsell HD-DVD. This was after the Blockbuster announcement, which has eroded some of HD-DVD's support. Go check the Nielsen Home Media Magazine if you want to verify the numbers I gave. The YTD sales ratio is 67% Blu-Ray and 33% HD-DVD. Pretty consistent trend if you ask me.

HD-DVD is not dead, but it is dying, and it will continue to die. Anyone who still has their money on HD-DVD is either an idiot, a desperate early adopter, or unaware of Blu-Ray's much stronger hand against HD-DVD.

looks like the wii vs ps3 for me.

"So, Ps3 is not dead, but it is dying, and it will continue to die. Anyone who still has their money on ps3 is either an idiot, a desperate early adopter, or unaware of Wii's much stronger hand against ps3."

 Sounds fair.
 



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