Sorry, but between the three, there is no doubt that Sony controls the living room.

Who sells the most TV's?

Who sells the most DVD players?

Who sells the most surround sound systems?

Who sells the most High Definition movie players?

Who sells the most speakers?

Who sells the most Amplifiers?

WHo sells the most VCR's, or DAT players (some people still have those).

Who owns the rights to over half the movies ever made?

Forget the fact that Sony has sold more gaming systems then anyone else over the last 10 years, Sony owns your loving room.

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They're losing, obviously, to Nintendo. Nintendo controls the living room. The masses aren't taking to this "one box does all" thing. They don't care. Most living rooms consist of a TV and a DVD and or VHS player. If a console is added, come the end of this generation, most will be Wii's. Microsoft isn't controlling a damn thing and neither is Sony. The 360 failed to control the living room the second HD DVD took a nose dive and Sony isn't going to get more than a foot in the door because Blu Ray's just not that big a deal yet. Many don't have HD TVs, and even many that do don't actually care about Blu Ray, or can't afford to buy in. I'm not even speaking on the PS3 itself, because that's understandable. The prices of Blu Ray movies are outrageous.

I fully agree with this. I just don't think it's relevant to what we're discussing. I thought we were discussing the game consoles as being the controlling factor of the living room.

Also, Sony doesn't own my loving room. My wife tells me I own that sucker, as I pull her hair when we're...nevermind. You meant living room, didn't you?

Sorry, but between the three, there is no doubt that Sony controls the living room.

Who sells the most TV's?

Who sells the most DVD players?

Who sells the most surround sound systems?

Who sells the most High Definition movie players?

Who sells the most speakers?

Who sells the most Amplifiers?

WHo sells the most VCR's, or DAT players (some people still have those).

Who owns the rights to over half the movies ever made?

Forget the fact that Sony has sold more gaming systems then anyone else over the last 10 years, Sony owns your loving room.

lol, yea, I meant living room. As for the debate about consoles, I think what the OP was talking about, is MS entered the gaming console market, to try and be an all around entertainment center. So when you wanted to watch movies, you did it through your Microsoft devices. he is implying that MS entered the market less for gaming, and more to keep Sony from dominating an industry that could infringe on the PC market.

When the X-Box came out, Web TV was a buzz, and there was a feeling that living room appliances could remove the need for PC's in everyones homes. MS wanted to make sure if the trend went that direction, that MS would have a piece of the pie.

So, in that context, Sony is still the 400 pound gorilla.

My point is, these all in one players like the 360 and PS3 aren't catching on. They sell to gamers and both sell well, but they're not hitting that mass market, and I think it's because people aren't looking for all in one players like these. It took the masses long enough just to learn how to press play on a VCR. Then they had to relearn this difficult step when DVD players became popular. You think they can navigate those Microsoft Blades or PS3 menus? Ha! I'd give them a cookie if they can find the on button.

Well then let's start with the fact that Nintendo has sold more gaming systems than Sony over the last ten years [1], and after that I'd like to ask you for your source for VCR and DAT player market share.

[1] Nintendo: GB 53m + GBA 81m + GC 22m + DS 75m + Wii 28m = 259m gaming systems. Sony: PS1 70m + PS2 120m + PSP 36m + PS3 14m = 240m gaming systems, 19m less than Nintendo. All according to VGchartz. For GB and PS1 I only took the shipments after March'98.