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Forums - Sales Discussion - Virtua Fighter 5 bombs in Japan - first day sales!!

First off it wasn't the best selling game, it was the best selling game that launched this week, not always a great acomplishment for a week in Feb. Secondly it was the best selling game for the ps3 again not an accomplishment, so it beat Resistance that's been on the market for months, big deal. Don't forget every ps3 game added up in total sold less then 700,000. A number far below Wii Sports alone. Virtua Fighter will be lucky to crack into the top five for the week and won't even be in the top 10 next week.(Of course I'm only refering to Japan) Granted you have a point about the user base, but lets face the facts Virtua Fighter 4 sold 367,000 copies on the ps2 in it's first week, again it did have a much bigger user base, but only selling 8% of your prior launch's first week is a little lackluster to say the least. The big question for Sony is how many ps3's is Virtua Fighter 5 going to sell. And the bottom line is not many.



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Stromprophet said: How did it Bomb? It was the best selling game? And the user install base is only 650,000 PS3s? Uhuh. I smell fanboy, oh wait he's a Wii fan. http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=12701 Better article.
Stromprophet VF5 on PS3 is selling worse than VF3 did on Dreamcast right now. VF5 is a better port than VF3 was. VF3 was more than 2 years old when it made its appearance as a Dreamcast launch title. VF5 is just over six months old in comparison to the arcade version. You can spin it all you want its not selling well. I figured that VF5 would sell much better than this and give the PS3 the kind of sales bounce the 360 got from Blue Dragon. Right now that doesn't seem to be the case.



seems a little to early to make a statement on the game's sales either way to me.



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Serves me right for challenging his sales predictions!

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32k units on day 1 is *terrible*. The PS2 equiv did about 10x as many units on the first day. Actually, Im not sure what is worse - that only 30% of the shipment sold through - or that only 100k units as ordered (for one of the *biggest* PS3 titles...). And isn't this the only PS3 release - until the end of Feb? Should hit around 40k sales for the week - my guess, will appear at #5 in the top 10 (then vanish next week, as most other titles have). Maybe this will convince Sega to change their strategy... (or Sony to chop another 30% off the PS3 price). ... I am a little surprised - I was expecting about 100k for the week (i.e. 70k-80k launch day). There are 600k PS3's already out in Japan - so this means that 95% of them don't want this game?



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shams said: (then vanish next week, as most other titles have)
Vanish from the top end of the chart maybe, but still sell decent numbers consistently over a long period of time, which is what will happen with this game too. Just look at Resistance. In a territory that doesn't even go for FPS games, Resistance has slowly sold from week to week, and is now well over the 100,000 mark, and not far behind RR7 and Gundam in terms of overall sales. Or how about Genji? Sold only 9000+ in the first week of release, but still sells small numbers to date, and is now over 50,000 in total: more than 5 times the figure sold in the first week. You really think a game of VF5's quality isn't going to sell respectable numbers?



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Getting "well over the 100,000 mark" would still be a big letdown for this game. PS3 needs a bonafide hit.



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Erik Aston said: Getting "well over the 100,000 mark" would still be a big letdown for this game. PS3 needs a bonafide hit.
What is a bonafide hit? 1 million? 500,000? Are these numbers WW? Because I know no matter how many ends up sold you will still say it is not a hit and move the "it's a hit" number higher.



Jack said: Erik Aston said: Getting "well over the 100,000 mark" would still be a big letdown for this game. PS3 needs a bonafide hit.What is a bonafide hit? 1 million? 500,000? Are these numbers WW? Because I know no matter how many ends up sold you will still say it is not a hit and move the "it's a hit" number higher.
Lets just say they need at the LEAST a 300,000+ seller (Japan alone). This isn't going to be close. Wii has 4 hits of that size already in Japan.



"[Our former customers] are unable to find software which they WANT to play."
"The way to solve this problem lies in how to communicate what kind of games [they CAN play]."

Satoru Iwata, Nintendo President. Only slightly paraphrased.

Erik Aston said: Lets just say they need at the LEAST a 300,000+ seller (Japan alone). This isn't going to be close. Wii has 4 hits of that size already in Japan.
Who needs 300,000+? General rule of thumb in Japan is that anything over 100,000 is a hit, but the reality of that can depend based on the cost of development and PR. VF5 is a port of an arcade game, so dev costs are low, and TV ads here mean PR is a little over average. What do Wii games have to do with this? @wii_gamer Where did you get those figures from?



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hanafuda said: Erik Aston said: Lets just say they need at the LEAST a 300,000+ seller (Japan alone). This isn't going to be close. Wii has 4 hits of that size already in Japan. Who needs 300,000+? General rule of thumb in Japan is that anything over 100,000 is a hit, but the reality of that can depend based on the cost of development and PR. VF5 is a port of an arcade game, so dev costs are low, and TV ads here mean PR is a little over average. What do Wii games have to do with this? @wii_gamer Where did you get those figures from?
VF5 was one of the games that was supposed to help PS3 begin to catch up to Wii week-to-week sales. It was the first of several PS3 games coming out in Feb/March that will be looked at in the context of Wii vs. PS3. It depends how you define the word "hit" I suppose, but 100,000 sales is a pretty mild hit in Japan. There's been well over 1,000 games to reach that mark. Maybe it would be an okay number for the developer all things considered, but in the context of "console wars", it is far from encouraging.



"[Our former customers] are unable to find software which they WANT to play."
"The way to solve this problem lies in how to communicate what kind of games [they CAN play]."

Satoru Iwata, Nintendo President. Only slightly paraphrased.