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Million said:

I should really give my reasoning for creating the thread so you can understand the intention behind it. I'm not used to watching TV with homosexual content in it ( I understand it's going to be the norm as time passes) but it kinda caught me off guard when I saw it in Hollyoaks , it's kinda the norm to see it in holyoaks and a few other T.V ( I don't watch alota soaps) .

Then there was a T.V advert which was removed because of complaints about the content.


then I got to thinking how much will the acceptance of homosexuality in media , every day life etc affect us . I'm not so bothered to have an argument as to wether it will have any affect what so ever because it's guaranteed to. What i'm more concerned is how it will affect us , wether it's seen as a beneficial change or a negative one , how peopel are responding to it etc.

 

superchunk said:
Just like someone's malformed "hairlip" doesn't affect me in any way, neither does someone's predisposed by birth affection for the same sex.

I could care less.

Would that mean 5 years olds could be homosexaul or is it something that occurs at puberty ?

Born gay, means BORN GAY. Every person I have ever know that is gay has always maintained that they ALWAYS like the same sex. Same for heterosexuals. Whenever the average age is when you start noticing your feelings of affection to someone, that is when you realize you are either looking at bill or gill in a loving way.

 



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The Ghost of RubangB said:

Homosexuality actually DOESN'T affect other people.  You know that, right?

Homosexuality isn't growing or spreading.

What's happening is people aren't living in fear of having their skulls bashed in by people who are even more uncomfortable and afraid than they are.  Fewer people living in fear is a good thing, no matter how you look at it.

Most mammals have homosexuality and bisexuality.  It's completely natural.

In humans, it's about 10% of men who are predominantly homosexual and 6% of women that are predominantly homosexual, meaning about 8% of humans overall.  These numbers don't count bisexuals.

Million said:

My question is how will this ultimatley affect us , how much will it do so , will it at all ? And how do you feel about it ?.

It won't affect us.

It won't affect us at all.

I don't care.

 

You are right... how can be wrong somebody that had my name on his signature.

 

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The Ghost of RubangB said:
The reason the gay rights movement has been off to such a slow start when compared to the civil rights movement or women's rights movement, is this:

If you're born black, you have an automatic support network: your black parents and any extended family or neighbors.

If you're born a woman, you have an automatic support network: your mother and any sisters, aunts, grandmothers, and female friends.

If you're born gay, the chances of your parents being gay are rather slim, so you're not guaranteed an instant support network. You might have evil parents who hate you, disown you, and kick you out of the house. It's luck of the draw that way, and totally sucks. This is also what creates large gay communities. So many people are forced out of their homes when they're young and broke and they need to find a safe place where the rednecks won't kill them, so they all end up in San Francisco, Miami, or West Hollywood.

Fortunately, it's not as bad as it used to be, but it's still totally fucking evil and horrible.



So while it might look like a modern gay rights movement just popped up out of nowhere, it's actually been around since the 1860s in Germany, but marginalized by all the haters.

First it was considered a sin and punishable by death for centuries. Then the first big social change was calling them "homosexuals" (intentionally a very technical scientific-sounding professional term) so we could consider it a mental disease and put them in mental hospitals instead of prisons. It was illegal for men to bone each other in Germany from 1871 until 1994. It seriously took that long. and that's in Germany, the country that started the modern gay rights movement.

And in America, the American Psychiatric Association considered homosexuality a mental illness until 1974.



Over a hundred years of people fighting and dying just for equal treatment.

And to this day people worry "Hm, if weirdos get equal treatment, how will that affect humanity!?!?"

NIGGA PLEEZE.

Somewhat contradictory that you ended your rant about equality with a derogatory/racist remark .  My point isn't that homosexuality will cause the downfall of humanity as we know it , I haven't even really put my opinion across yet. What I wanted to see was how other people felt about the acceptance of homosexuality , that's not to say that I thought it was a bad ,negative or unproductive thing.

 

 




superchunk said:
Million said:

I should really give my reasoning for creating the thread so you can understand the intention behind it. I'm not used to watching TV with homosexual content in it ( I understand it's going to be the norm as time passes) but it kinda caught me off guard when I saw it in Hollyoaks , it's kinda the norm to see it in holyoaks and a few other T.V ( I don't watch alota soaps) .

Then there was a T.V advert which was removed because of complaints about the content.


then I got to thinking how much will the acceptance of homosexuality in media , every day life etc affect us . I'm not so bothered to have an argument as to wether it will have any affect what so ever because it's guaranteed to. What i'm more concerned is how it will affect us , wether it's seen as a beneficial change or a negative one , how peopel are responding to it etc.

 

superchunk said:
Just like someone's malformed "hairlip" doesn't affect me in any way, neither does someone's predisposed by birth affection for the same sex.

I could care less.

Would that mean 5 years olds could be homosexaul or is it something that occurs at puberty ?

Born gay, means BORN GAY. Every person I have ever know that is gay has always maintained that they ALWAYS like the same sex. Same for heterosexuals. Whenever the average age is when you start noticing your feelings of affection to someone, that is when you realize you are either looking at bill or gill in a loving way.

 

So would that mean the a toddle "homosexual" would respond to images of a nude mad in the same way a "hetrosexual todller" would respond to images of nude women , if our sexual preferences are innate in this way then it would stand to reason that the response would be the same. Would that also mean that it would be impossible for a once hetrosexual man to become homosexual or a once homosexual man to become hetrosexual permanently ?

Would it be a mental illness for a baby born homosexual to like ladies and not men in adulthood ?

 

I'm not arguing against you , i'm trying to further my understanding.

 




Million said:
superchunk said:
Million said:

I should really give my reasoning for creating the thread so you can understand the intention behind it. I'm not used to watching TV with homosexual content in it ( I understand it's going to be the norm as time passes) but it kinda caught me off guard when I saw it in Hollyoaks , it's kinda the norm to see it in holyoaks and a few other T.V ( I don't watch alota soaps) .

Then there was a T.V advert which was removed because of complaints about the content.


then I got to thinking how much will the acceptance of homosexuality in media , every day life etc affect us . I'm not so bothered to have an argument as to wether it will have any affect what so ever because it's guaranteed to. What i'm more concerned is how it will affect us , wether it's seen as a beneficial change or a negative one , how peopel are responding to it etc.

 

superchunk said:
Just like someone's malformed "hairlip" doesn't affect me in any way, neither does someone's predisposed by birth affection for the same sex.

I could care less.

Would that mean 5 years olds could be homosexaul or is it something that occurs at puberty ?

Born gay, means BORN GAY. Every person I have ever know that is gay has always maintained that they ALWAYS like the same sex. Same for heterosexuals. Whenever the average age is when you start noticing your feelings of affection to someone, that is when you realize you are either looking at bill or gill in a loving way.

 

So would that mean the a toddle "homosexual" would respond to images of a nude mad in the same way a "hetrosexual todller" would respond to images of nude women , if our sexual preferences are innate in this way then it would stand to reason that the response would be the same. Would that also mean that it would be impossible for a once hetrosexual man to become homosexual or a once homosexual man to become hetrosexual permanently ?

Would it be a mental illness for a baby born homosexual to like ladies and not men in adulthood ?

 

I'm not arguing against you , i'm trying to further my understanding.

 

I simply don't know where you tryig to go with this. A gay person just like anyone, they just like the same sex. There is no choice, it's just who they are. And it's been like that since the existance of man.

 



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Million said:
superchunk said:
Million said:

I should really give my reasoning for creating the thread so you can understand the intention behind it. I'm not used to watching TV with homosexual content in it ( I understand it's going to be the norm as time passes) but it kinda caught me off guard when I saw it in Hollyoaks , it's kinda the norm to see it in holyoaks and a few other T.V ( I don't watch alota soaps) .

Then there was a T.V advert which was removed because of complaints about the content.


then I got to thinking how much will the acceptance of homosexuality in media , every day life etc affect us . I'm not so bothered to have an argument as to wether it will have any affect what so ever because it's guaranteed to. What i'm more concerned is how it will affect us , wether it's seen as a beneficial change or a negative one , how peopel are responding to it etc.

 

superchunk said:
Just like someone's malformed "hairlip" doesn't affect me in any way, neither does someone's predisposed by birth affection for the same sex.

I could care less.

Would that mean 5 years olds could be homosexaul or is it something that occurs at puberty ?

Born gay, means BORN GAY. Every person I have ever know that is gay has always maintained that they ALWAYS like the same sex. Same for heterosexuals. Whenever the average age is when you start noticing your feelings of affection to someone, that is when you realize you are either looking at bill or gill in a loving way.

 

So would that mean the a toddle "homosexual" would respond to images of a nude mad in the same way a "hetrosexual todller" would respond to images of nude women , if our sexual preferences are innate in this way then it would stand to reason that the response would be the same. Would that also mean that it would be impossible for a once hetrosexual man to become homosexual or a once homosexual man to become hetrosexual permanently ?

Would it be a mental illness for a baby born homosexual to like ladies and not men in adulthood ?

 

I'm not arguing against you , i'm trying to further my understanding.

 

A "homosexual toddler" and "heterosexual toddler" (I highly doubt their sexual preferences have evolved to such a point... I was playing with blocks then!) would indeed react the same. I mean all toddlers will respond the same to nude images, e.g. eat them.

Even when they are older it will merely depend on the moment they start to feel something for a person, and wether this person is male or female. Someone else said: a person does not know, untill it's that time. Might be puberty, might be when you haven't even reached age 10.

And yes it has happened that pre-heterosexual people turned homosexual or even vice versa, though I think those people usually end up being bi-sexual even if they do not touch the opposite/same sex anymore.

And calling it a mentall illness, despite age of the person you acknolwedge it too is considered rather un-medical in the US since 1974, and flat-out retarded since the 90's by the rest of non-biggotted the people.



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Million said:

Somewhat contradictory that you ended your rant about equality with a derogatory/racist remark .  My point isn't that homosexuality will cause the downfall of humanity as we know it , I haven't even really put my opinion across yet. What I wanted to see was how other people felt about the acceptance of homosexuality , that's not to say that I thought it was a bad ,negative or unproductive thing.

 

Even considering the question at all is very offensive.  You're asking how acceptance will affect us.  Acceptance is good.

Imagine a thread titled: "How will blackness affect us in the future,Are you happy about it?"  And it asks how accepting black people and having more blacks on TV will affect us.

Well either way, the result will be: our kids won't hate minorities as much as we do.

 

And I don't see how "NIGGA PLEEZE" was racist.  Saying "nigger" when you're not black makes you a racist.  Saying "nigga" when you're not black just makes you an idiot.

Million said:
superchunk said:

Born gay, means BORN GAY. Every person I have ever know that is gay has always maintained that they ALWAYS like the same sex. Same for heterosexuals. Whenever the average age is when you start noticing your feelings of affection to someone, that is when you realize you are either looking at bill or gill in a loving way.

So would that mean the a toddle "homosexual" would respond to images of a nude mad in the same way a "hetrosexual todller" would respond to images of nude women , if our sexual preferences are innate in this way then it would stand to reason that the response would be the same. Would that also mean that it would be impossible for a once hetrosexual man to become homosexual or a once homosexual man to become hetrosexual permanently ?

Would it be a mental illness for a baby born homosexual to like ladies and not men in adulthood ?

 

I'm not arguing against you , i'm trying to further my understanding.

People don't change sexualities.  And if they change their actions, it just means they weren't fully aware of their sexuality earlier in life due to the hate and repression and fear involved, and they are just discovering their true sexuality.  Some people experiment a lot until they find out how they really feel.  Some people experiment a lot and never even find out for sure.  However, the sexuality doesn't change.  It's not a mental illness for people to grow up and experiment or to understand their feelings more.

 



luinil said:
I thought about posting my thoughts in this thread... But on second thought I don't want to be attacked for being too conservative, which I would be viewed as. The vast interwebz doesn't like too many Conservatives it would seem...

My opinion: You can't be conservative enough.

 

 I think most people here know you're stance as you are a devoted Christian. My opinion is, though that if we would remain conservative we would have never advanced past the wheel. And I still don't see what one group (wether they be Christians, Conservatives or democrats) gives them the right to keep another group down. For whoms good is it?



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@Million
I'm not sure any studies have been done like that, but they'd probably be inconclusive if they were. Toddlers simply don't understand sex cognitively enough to get what they were looking at. While they could very well be gay, they would just be associating based on their experiences with each gender. I could be wrong, I'm not a scientist, after all. :)

I guess the easiest example I could give would be one you might have heard already. Try and remember the day you made the conscious decision to be a heterosexual. I sure can't remember my 'decision day', because it never happened. I was born this way(hetero), and could never be any different. Same for gay people. Hope that helps.