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ZenfoldorVGI said:
SpartanFX said:

I own DMC4 on PS3(traded it in), ninja gaiden on my original xbox and god of war 2 for my backward compatible PS3.ninja gaiden was my least favourite hack and slash between the three.but still one of the top ones compared to say genma onimusha for my xbox.

in fighting mechanism ninja gaiden 2>god of war 2>ninja gaiden>devil may cry 4

In music/graphics/story/camera God of war 2>devil may cry 4>>>>>>>>>>>>ninja gaiden 2>ninja gaiden

ninja gaiden gets boring/frustrating due to its unforgiving difficulty and nonexistence story line,,,,you really don't have much motivation to finish the game.

ninja gaiden is my only game that I didn't finish on my original xbox(played up to chapter 12).I noticed that I was just getting angry /frustrated instead of having fun with the game.

my pick is god of war 2 .I love the thinking part/puzzles and the story line in god of war.and ripping a person in to two parts with your hand is also fun ;).

the god of war franchise is the reason I went with PS3 after my xbox.when I saw the ads for god of war 1 & 2 on TV I really regretted buying xbox over PS2,,, I knew I had to play the game,,I played it on PS3 and it exceeded my expectations.


Again this is rather personal choice not a general rule,,,Some people might enjoy what I found frustrating in ninja gaiden.

The graphics in NG2 are far better than the graphics in DMC4 or GoW2.

NG is a hardcore game. It is very difficult. The storyline, to me, is along the line of DMC4. Nothing special really.

You should finish Ninja Gaiden, lol. It's a masterpiece.

God of Ware 2 is a puzzle game. If you love puzzles, especially block puzzles, you'll love it, lol. The story is also good.

Of course the graphics are better than GOW2, it was a lastgen ps2 title :D. Let's see how it looks when GOW3 comes out =).

 



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Phasma said:
weezy said:
Some people can't handle a hard game.
They like simple games like GoW and DMC.

 

Again you are babbling sh*t. NG is the simple game, you just fight and don't have to worry about anything else. DMC is actually quite the same, story aint deep and the puzzles, if you can call them that are easy, but GOW ain't simple you do a lot more in it than fight and if in simple you mean easy to beat, play with the harder difficulty and it ain't easy. Also don't start with the "NG is hard even with the easy mode" because that actually sucks, because it turns off players who can't play, with GOW on the other hand you actually can CHOOSE if the game is easy, hard or very hard, and im actually quite amazed about how the "great player" couldn't see things like this. Looks like the player has been played. (Come up with something clever will ya?)



^ Another gamer influenced by games getting easier as time goes on.

 



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Phasma said:
weezy said:
Some people can't handle a hard game.
They like simple games like GoW and DMC.

 

Again you are babbling sh*t. NG is the simple game, you just fight and don't have to worry about anything else. DMC is actually quite the same, story aint deep and the puzzles, if you can call them that are easy, but GOW ain't simple you do a lot more in it than fight and if in simple you mean easy to beat, play with the harder difficulty and it ain't easy. Also don't start with the "NG is hard even with the easy mode" because that actually sucks, because it turns off players who can't play, with GOW on the other hand you actually can CHOOSE if the game is easy, hard or very hard, and im actually quite amazed about how the "great player" couldn't see things like this. Looks like the player has been played. (Come up with something clever will ya?)

He's trolling and flamebaiting you, however he is correct, despite his greatest efforts not to be, as NG also has higher difficulties, and believe me, the final difficulty on DMC1, DMC3, NGBlack, and NG2 are all devistating and impossible to the average gamer, so while I do agree that GoW does get harder on higher difficulties, simply beating NG2, even on easy mode, is quite a feat, and gamers who do complete the game should be commended.

 



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

Phasma said:
weezy said:
Some people can't handle a hard game.
They like simple games like GoW and DMC.

 

Again you are babbling sh*t. NG is the simple game, you just fight and don't have to worry about anything else. DMC is actually quite the same, story aint deep and the puzzles, if you can call them that are easy, but GOW ain't simple you do a lot more in it than fight and if in simple you mean easy to beat, play with the harder difficulty and it ain't easy. Also don't start with the "NG is hard even with the easy mode" because that actually sucks, because it turns off players who can't play, with GOW on the other hand you actually can CHOOSE if the game is easy, hard or very hard, and im actually quite amazed about how the "great player" couldn't see things like this. Looks like the player has been played. (Come up with something clever will ya?)

 

 LOL,this guy is a riot.

 

Like I said, If you want a challenge play Ninja Gaiden and not those other adolescent action games.



I am WEEzY. You can suck my Nintendo loving BALLS!

 

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GoW never really gets hard, actually. At its most difficult its about as hard as NG on Normal or Warrior.

And "push the block" puzzles were dumb back in the Tomb Raider and Ocarina of Time days.



ZenfoldorVGI said:
Phasma said:

I must say this thread has seen it share of trolling. I don't say NG2 sucks, beause it doesn't. But it's quite stupid to bash a game like GOW ( a darn good game indeed) and say it sucks just because you think NG2 is better. One thing i wondered was what ZenfoldorVGI said:I want a few things. Difficulty, depth, and boss battles. Have you played GOW2 and cranked up the difficulty? Really, do that. GOW2 has all of those features you said. Mediocre action elements? Dude, again...Really? Play some games would you. I Have been playing games from the nes period and i hate easy games, they give no challenge what so ever.

Trust me when I say that in all likelyhood I've played 100 times the amount of videogames you have, but lets drop that, it's personal and unimportant.

"Amount" of games doesn't matter as much as taste in games.

I've said it many times, GoW is, imo, the most over-rated series in gaming.

Instead of doing any particular thing well, it focuses more on production values and storyline. If you took Dante and put him in GoW, it would be the worst DMC game yet.

Here are my issues with the game:

A. The bosses are killed via mini-game where you press the corresponding button to what appears on screen. Most of the interesting fighs are like this. These types of mini-game are some of the worst in gaming, and amount to the in class mini-games in Bully. If you strip away everything else, this is bad gameplay.

B. Puzzles involving levers and blocks significantly slow down the pace of the game which by nature is in an already repetitive genre.

C. The ability to get stuck and backtrack to find the puzzle piece is a gameplay element that grew stale in Resident Evil 1 for the playstation.

D. The combat itself is rather bad. Upgraded moves and RPG elements are un-necessary, and add very little to your combat abilities. The vast majority of movies you can perform are made with the obviously overpowered chain weapons right out of the gate. Every 3d Castlevania has had a more complex battle system than every GoW title.

The story, character, and diversity of the game ensure that it gets high ratings for originality, but when you compare it to a real action game, it falls short.

 

I'm not surprised this game has a ton of fanboys. The game is "cool." It attempts to put style over substance, and when half of your short-ass game is filled with puzzles to open the door to the next room, we might as well be playing the last Prince of Persia game and saying it's better than DMC 4. You can't compare them, it's a different genre.

 

If you want a badass story narrative that is good for a playthrough on easy just to enjoy the story, then stick with God of War. If you want depth in your battle system, or graphics, go with Ninja Gaiden 2, because even on easy difficutly, this game will tear you apart until you learn to actually play better. It's an action game. No puzzles, throw away story, great graphics, bad camera, unbelievable difficulty, everything that a good action game has always had, back to Ninja Gaiden for the NES.

I don't think you have played over 100 times the amount of games i have, and if you have you don't have a life :D. But yeah, stupid thing to start arguing about. If you don't like GOW no problem, and yeah it isn't a pure action game and that's the good part of it, it keeps you playing it longer. If you put dante in GOW it would suck, that's because he doesn't fit with his smart ass talk in a greep mythology game. But anyways, you like a game or you don't, and NG sucks :D.

 



ZenfoldorVGI said:
Phasma said:
weezy said:
Some people can't handle a hard game.
They like simple games like GoW and DMC.

 

Again you are babbling sh*t. NG is the simple game, you just fight and don't have to worry about anything else. DMC is actually quite the same, story aint deep and the puzzles, if you can call them that are easy, but GOW ain't simple you do a lot more in it than fight and if in simple you mean easy to beat, play with the harder difficulty and it ain't easy. Also don't start with the "NG is hard even with the easy mode" because that actually sucks, because it turns off players who can't play, with GOW on the other hand you actually can CHOOSE if the game is easy, hard or very hard, and im actually quite amazed about how the "great player" couldn't see things like this. Looks like the player has been played. (Come up with something clever will ya?)

He's trolling and flamebaiting you, however he is correct, despite his greatest efforts not to be, as NG also has higher difficulties, and believe me, the final difficulty on DMC1, DMC3, NGBlack, and NG2 are all devistating and impossible to the average gamer, so while I do agree that GoW does get harder on higher difficulties, simply beating NG2, even on easy mode, is quite a feat, and gamers who do complete the game should be commended.

 

Wierd, when I say GoW and DMC are for wimps, I get warned.

But its ok to call weezy a retard.

I love the mods consistancy around here. I even PMed Naz about this and he clearly doesnt give a shit. Props to Naz. lol

 

 



I am WEEzY. You can suck my Nintendo loving BALLS!

 

MynameisGARY

NJ5 said:
Phasma said:
weezy said:
Some people can't handle a hard game.
They like simple games like GoW and DMC.

 

Again you are babbling sh*t. NG is the simple game, you just fight and don't have to worry about anything else. DMC is actually quite the same, story aint deep and the puzzles, if you can call them that are easy, but GOW ain't simple you do a lot more in it than fight and if in simple you mean easy to beat, play with the harder difficulty and it ain't easy. Also don't start with the "NG is hard even with the easy mode" because that actually sucks, because it turns off players who can't play, with GOW on the other hand you actually can CHOOSE if the game is easy, hard or very hard, and im actually quite amazed about how the "great player" couldn't see things like this. Looks like the player has been played. (Come up with something clever will ya?)



^ Another gamer influenced by games getting easier as time goes on.

 

Hohoo, that was sooo clever :D

 



ZenfoldorVGI said:
Phasma said:
weezy said:
Some people can't handle a hard game.
They like simple games like GoW and DMC.

 

Again you are babbling sh*t. NG is the simple game, you just fight and don't have to worry about anything else. DMC is actually quite the same, story aint deep and the puzzles, if you can call them that are easy, but GOW ain't simple you do a lot more in it than fight and if in simple you mean easy to beat, play with the harder difficulty and it ain't easy. Also don't start with the "NG is hard even with the easy mode" because that actually sucks, because it turns off players who can't play, with GOW on the other hand you actually can CHOOSE if the game is easy, hard or very hard, and im actually quite amazed about how the "great player" couldn't see things like this. Looks like the player has been played. (Come up with something clever will ya?)

He's trolling and flamebaiting you, however he is correct, despite his greatest efforts not to be, as NG also has higher difficulties, and believe me, the final difficulty on DMC1, DMC3, NGBlack, and NG2 are all devistating and impossible to the average gamer, so while I do agree that GoW does get harder on higher difficulties, simply beating NG2, even on easy mode, is quite a feat, and gamers who do complete the game should be commended.

 

 

Yeah i know they are hard to beat, dmc3 was quite the hell with the harder difficulties, but what i meant was that it's good if a game can be easy and hard. I always play with the hardest difficulty myself but for newcomers the easy is good.