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shanbcn on 22 June 2008
Munkeh111 said:
sc94597 said:
shanbcn said:
And more importantly Disney will want KH3 to sell decent numbers all over the world.

 

And it will sell more on the console that has both a large japanese userbase, and a large western userbase. Which one is that? Hint: Look on the home page of this site.

 

To be fair, if user base was the only consideration, the Wiii would be getting a hell of a lot of extra third party support

 

Forgot about extra support, Wii is not even getting the support on par with PS3/360.



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ctk495 on 22 June 2008
sc94597 said:
Leetgeek said:
Mise said:

Kingdom Hearts doesn't fit into the same demographic as everything else on PS3 (KH is targeted mostly at kids, everything else on PS3 is made for 15+ year old males), it can't draw that demographic to PS3 by itself, and PS3 is apparently the least profitable console to make games for at the moment.

Considering that Disney will always go for money first, KH is more likely to land on the Wii, DS or even 360 rather than PS3. If Squeenix controlled the KH franchise, it would most certainly stay in Sony consoles - but it doesn't.

Disney can push the Blu-Ray just fine with movies only, and leave its options open with the game franchises.

EDIT: Teh Sloooow.

 

You could have made that arguement for PS2 no?

The ps2 targeted everyone in the same way the wii does, but the wii does it at a larger scale. The ps2 was a very casual system. I would say it is the third most casual console of all time, after the wii and ds that is.

 

 

The question would be why would square change from supporting sony with the kingdom hearts franchise when it has had good sales in the previous iterations staying on the playstation family .Why to switch to nintendo,I know this has happend in the past with final fantasy but in this case has Sony done something wrong for square to do this?Also Disney plays an important role why risk their franchise and put it on the wii?



sc94597 on 22 June 2008
Munkeh111 said:
sc94597 said:
shanbcn said:
And more importantly Disney will want KH3 to sell decent numbers all over the world.

 

And it will sell more on the console that has both  a large japanese userbase, and a large western userbase. Which one is that? Hint: Look on the home page of this site.

 

To be fair, if user base was the only consideration, the Wiii would be getting a hell of a lot of extra third party support

Actually from japanese developers it is, and it's increasing significantly every month. I could very well see it surpass that of the ps3 and 360 support in a few months.

@ Ctk Firstly it's not squares choice. Secondly Square already said they aren't supporting only sony. They've shown this with the ds games, some wii games, and 360 games. Square sspecificly said they aren't supporting one company , but many.Also disney games sold the most one the wii, and they are risking the franchise more by putting it on the ps3 where most of the userbase will ignore it.

 



MakoInfused on 22 June 2008
sc94597 said:
Leetgeek said:
Mise said:

Kingdom Hearts doesn't fit into the same demographic as everything else on PS3 (KH is targeted mostly at kids, everything else on PS3 is made for 15+ year old males), it can't draw that demographic to PS3 by itself, and PS3 is apparently the least profitable console to make games for at the moment.

Considering that Disney will always go for money first, KH is more likely to land on the Wii, DS or even 360 rather than PS3. If Squeenix controlled the KH franchise, it would most certainly stay in Sony consoles - but it doesn't.

Disney can push the Blu-Ray just fine with movies only, and leave its options open with the game franchises.

EDIT: Teh Sloooow.

 

You could have made that arguement for PS2 no?

The ps2 targeted everyone in the same way the wii does, but the wii does it at a larger scale. The ps2 was a very casual system. I would say it is the third most casual console of all time, after the wii and ds that is.

 

Actually, the PS2 targeted a more mature audience...with much many more "M ratings" than Gamecube...and yes, the PS2 was "casual" but only because when people thought of gaming, they thought of the playstation brand. 

And KH may have disney characters, but i could bet that the majority of the people that play it are 15+ xD

 

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Honestly i see it coming to the Wii a bit more than to PS3...because of it's more cartoony look, but if it's the teaser at the end of KH2, the one of the Keyblade wars thing, that deffinetly deserved to be on PS3 graphics :P

 



Ajax on 22 June 2008

KH = kiddy, Wii = kiddy, nice fit



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Kasz216 on 22 June 2008
shanbcn said:
.:Dark Prince:. said:
shanbcn said:
sc94597 said:
shanbcn said:
And more importantly Disney will want KH3 to sell decent numbers all over the world.

 

And it will sell more on the console that has both a large japanese userbase, and a large western userbase. Which one is that? Hint: Look on the home page of this site.

 


Install base 3 times bigger in Japan and still MGS4 will become biggest 3rd party title in just 2 weeks. Wii will never enjoy huge 3rd party support like PS2 did even with way better sales.


Because there are many 3rd party games on the Wii of high quality, Marketing budget, bundles etc like MGS4 eh? Right...

 

 

And the reason is you need to sell 1 million or more on these kind of games to break even. Now tell me how many 3rd party Wii games sold more then 1 million? Why still there is not even one big jrpg anounced for Wii?

1 Million on an HD console. 500,000 on the Wii.

Wii games cost at least half the price to make.

Aside which... Wii has 6 more 3rd party Million sellers then PS3.



ctk495 on 22 June 2008
sc94597 said:
Munkeh111 said:
sc94597 said:
shanbcn said:
And more importantly Disney will want KH3 to sell decent numbers all over the world.

 

And it will sell more on the console that has both a large japanese userbase, and a large western userbase. Which one is that? Hint: Look on the home page of this site.

 

To be fair, if user base was the only consideration, the Wiii would be getting a hell of a lot of extra third party support

Actually from japanese developers it is, and it's increasing significantly every month. I could very well see it surpass that of the ps3 and 360 support in a few months.

@ Ctk Firstly it's not squares choice. Secondly Square already said they aren't supporting only sony. They've shown this with the ds games, some wii games, and 360 games. Square sspecificly said they aren't supporting one company , but many.Also disney games sold the most one the wii, and they are risking the franchise more by putting it on the ps3 where most of the userbase will ignore it.

 

Then why isn't final fantansy XIII multiplatform if square is supporting everybody,it can be possible on the 360?

Bold:Well disney games sell good on the wii but kingdom hearts its not just a disney game also a square game that makes it different so it won't be ignore like other games made by disney.

 



sc94597 on 22 June 2008
MakoInfused said:
sc94597 said:
Leetgeek said:
Mise said:

Kingdom Hearts doesn't fit into the same demographic as everything else on PS3 (KH is targeted mostly at kids, everything else on PS3 is made for 15+ year old males), it can't draw that demographic to PS3 by itself, and PS3 is apparently the least profitable console to make games for at the moment.

Considering that Disney will always go for money first, KH is more likely to land on the Wii, DS or even 360 rather than PS3. If Squeenix controlled the KH franchise, it would most certainly stay in Sony consoles - but it doesn't.

Disney can push the Blu-Ray just fine with movies only, and leave its options open with the game franchises.

EDIT: Teh Sloooow.

 

You could have made that arguement for PS2 no?

The ps2 targeted everyone in the same way the wii does, but the wii does it at a larger scale. The ps2 was a very casual system. I would say it is the third most casual console of all time, after the wii and ds that is.

 

Actually, the PS2 targeted a more mature audience...with much many more "M ratings" than Gamecube...and yes, the PS2 was "casual" but only because when people thought of gaming, they thought of the playstation brand. 

And KH may have disney characters, but i could bet that the majority of the people that play it are 15+ xD

 

|OT|
Honestly i see it coming to the Wii a bit more than to PS3...because of it's more cartoony look, but if it's the teaser at the end of KH2, the one of the Keyblade wars thing, that deffinetly deserved to be on PS3 graphics :P

 

I disagree. Kh was specificaly targeted to disney fans(kids) and final fantasy fans( mostly adults and teens). So it targeted both demographs. I would say more disney fans bought the game, because of all of the coverage there was on the disney channel for the game, and  most of my friends and me who were about  9 at the time bought the game, I've never seen an adult or teen who got the game over 10 years old. Also the playstation brand originally targeted the mature audience, but after a while other audiences started to adopt it too. You might be right about it having more M games, but I bet it also had more E and T games too.

 



psrock on 22 June 2008

why do wii fans think they deserve this game ?

As we have seen last week and GTA week, user base means nothing when it comes to big games sales. If we were going on which systems deserve it or not it would a Sony one since the last two were on a Sony system.



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Ajax on 22 June 2008

maybe the 360 might not be able to handle FFXIII



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