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Forums - Sales Discussion - PS3 breaks 1m sales in PAL territories, time to change the Euro numbers

roadkillers on 10 June 2007

Are you guys sure its sold? Or could it be just shipped? I wouldnt doubt it being sold since they sold what 800,000 around release date. Right? Please correct me if im wrong. Are you sure its sold though because a lot of companies say sold and they mean sold to Stores.



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oli2 on 10 June 2007
blowfish said:
 

Incase you haven't noticed their is a limit on how many words you can fit into a title of a thread so i only had enough room to fit the basics. Also again incase you haven't noticed this is the internet where people state their opinions and don't have to ask, just like you didnt say to me 'why not' 'maybe' you should have said to ioi 'maybe' or 'why not' when asking to change the numbers, you just told me i should have said that because thats your opinion. Just like its my opinion the numbers should be changed, no big deal chill out.


Internet is for sure a place where everybody can say his opinions. Problem is that there are people who tend to forget the word "respect".

How do you want people to hear what you have to say when you give them orders, or when you yell at them ? 

Again, who are you to talk to the funder on this forum such a way ? 



DKII on 10 June 2007

It's actual sell-through.

And Iberia = Spain + Portugal.

PS: VGChartz currently has PS3's in UK at 280k, according to this article it should be more like 250k (25% of 1M), the horror! Maybe they're selling more in the traditionally tiny markets than expected, though VGChartz already has higher numbers there.



blowfish on 10 June 2007
oli2 said:
blowfish said:
 

Incase you haven't noticed their is a limit on how many words you can fit into a title of a thread so i only had enough room to fit the basics. Also again incase you haven't noticed this is the internet where people state their opinions and don't have to ask, just like you didnt say to me 'why not' 'maybe' you should have said to ioi 'maybe' or 'why not' when asking to change the numbers, you just told me i should have said that because thats your opinion. Just like its my opinion the numbers should be changed, no big deal chill out.


Internet is for sure a place where everybody can say his opinions. Problem is that there are people who tend to forget the word "respect".

How do you want people to hear what you have to say when you give them orders, or when you yell at them ?

Again, who are you to talk to the funder on this forum such a way ?


Im not giving orders nor am i shouting at anybody, im stating my opinion. How about you add something constructive to the thread for a change?

Kytiara on 10 June 2007
naznatips said:
NJ5 said:
naznatips said:
 

Again, no one but the rabid fanboys ever claims the PS3 will die


The validity of that statement (the whole sentence, not just the "PS3 will die" part) depends on the definition of dying. I'd say it will either die or be in a long coma, supported by Sony's pockets. Some other people say so too, and I don't think they're all rabid fanboys.


It's pretty hard to believe it will ever actually die.  It's following the gamecube and N64 sales tracks pretty clearly.  Neither of them died, so I doubt the PS3 will.


I know this has been stated many times, but the situation is different than it was for the N64 or gamecube.  Nintendo is strictly a gaming hardware/software producer.  They live and die on the profits they make in this market.  Sony has many different departments.  Nintendo still made profit on the N64 and Gamecube, Sony is not.  If PS3 sells gamecube levels over a similar time frame (5+ years, whatever the gamecube lived for) than Sony has NOT succeeded with the ps3 because they would have either lost money or made a very small margin.

However, I do not believe the PS3 will die, but I think it is possible, especially with that new overall Sony exec guy laying about with his axe to reduce unprofitable business.



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chadplaya on 10 June 2007

It gunna brake mo records foo!



omgwtfbbq on 11 June 2007
blowfish said:
omgwtfbbq said:
blowfish said:
rocketpig said:
blowfish said:
You're right nobody knows the exact numbers. Fact is only sony has sonys numbers. Whatever paided third party sales trackers this site has access to, sony will have access to them as well. So the fact is sony knows more about how many ps3's were sold then this site does. Sony didnt come out and just say they have sold a million, they have said they have sold OVER a million. So just calling it at a million is less then what sony have said in the first place.

So you're going to put all your stock into a company that has a vested interest in reporting high numbers?

As someone who has worked in advertising and PR for the past 7 years, I wouldn't trust those numbers with a ten foot pole. I doubt they're far off the mark (VGC isn't far from their numbers), but I also doubt they're picking a conservative estimate and publicising that.


Im trusting the people who have access to more information than this website and they say over one million so if you want to talk about an over top estimate taking the over 1 million figure and just calling it just 1 million is still less then what sony says.

look, I have an idea for you, if it will make you happy. Are you ready:

1) Take VGChartz numbers for all consoles.
2) multiply by 1.05

how's that? Do you feel better now? Now the PS3 has 1 million and you can sit there in the sure knowledge that VGChartz is undertracking the "real" numbers, while we all sit here with our "inferior" numbers.

If it makes you happy, you can even only apply the above formula to those consoles you like. Then the PS3 will look even better!

Because in the end, the truth is these numbers are here for all our benifits. It's not like any less or more consoles will be sold because ioi has stated these numbers. If you believe them to be in error by 5%, then add 5% to the numbers. But don't tell us to change when everyone else is happy.

 

 

Wow talk about being insecure. Im fine, im happy, i don't need to feel any better. All i did was post an official press release and silly me for thinking that the numbers should have been changed to match it. Alot of people have become very defensive over nothing.

well if you're fine and happy then stop complaining about the numbers on this site. ioi gets his numbers in his way and if you don't like it then take Sony's numbers.

So yes, silly you for thinking the numbers should be changed to match the press release.  

 



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DKII on 11 June 2007

Ok that's enough, this thread has run its course so I'm going to lock this while people are still being relatively civil to blowfish. ;>