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why is that? I like Nintendo games the most (not a fanboy) but I shot Ninty the most. I said fanboyisms aside please...



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Bodhesatva said:

Sony copied Nintendo, plain and simple. Motion Sensitive controllers and electronics have existed for decades, not just years; accelerometers were invented back in the 40s, if I recall correctly.

One could claim that innovation never occurs; that even the controller shown in your webcast is simply a copy of the MS Sidewinder, which is simply a couple of accelerometers slapped into a controller. We can then point out that accelerometers owe their existance to gyroscopes, and therefore they aren't totally original either. Or, you we can agree that innovation occurs in degrees, and while nothing is ever totally original (nor is anything ever totally a copy -- even two Sixaxis controllers are slightly different, if only because of production imperfections), some things are more original than others.

Is the Wii Remote completely and entirely innovative? Of course not. In fact, any electronic product owes a serious debt to Tesla, Edison, and Touring, among others. Is the Sixaxis a total copy of the Wii Remote? Again, no. Only a literal copy of the Wii Remote, with the same colors, and name, and button configuration, and shape, etc. would actually be a direct copy. But one can reasonably claim that the Wii Remote is a significant step for video games, and that the Sixaxis almost certainly exists to head off the Wii-mote on rush.

I'm just tired of these arguments breaking down into putty. Whenever someone claims that the Wii-remote is innovative, people point out any and all products that are reasonably similar; no one is claiming that the Wii remote is actually absolutely original. As we've already established, no such thing exists. Heck, even calling it a "remote" means we owe homage to whomever coined the term "remote" for the english language. What we're saying is that the Wii remote is significantly more innovative, and the Sixaxis significantly less so.

Or are you actually claiming that Sony copied a product made by a small off-brand manufacturing firm (Pelican) that never sold well and hasn't been produced since 2000? They thought: "Hey, this small off-brand company made a relatively unsuccesfull product back in 1999 that almost no one has ever heard of. Let's copy that!" 

...or they saw that Nintendo was getting a ton of positive buzz about their new Wii-Remote, and tried to head off the on rush.  


Dude, there are a few contradictions in that post my man. Okay, the Wii remote isn't completely and entirely innovative, it isn't absolutely original, yet it ends up being more innovative.

Plus, why didn't you dissect my whole post?



Damn YOU for starting this thread...



This thread is just a series of mistakes waiting to happen. Did you honestly not think it would turn into a fanboy argument?



DonWii said:
Damn YOU for starting this thread...

My thought exactly the same



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I must agree I'm rather pissed off at how late we get Nintendo games here in Europe. I was looking forward to Elebits and Trauma Center around launch, but they got bumped all the way to April and July. I went "Oh well, Super Paper Mario looks pretty cool..." but it doesn't even have a date set yet. -_-

Game specific friend codes suck also, as does region locking. It's ok to copy from the best, really, just do it already. >_



A thread just for cursing at the consoles and you neglected the 60% failure rate of the 360? Seems to me like that ought to top any list of major screwups this generation.

The rest was pretty comprehensive, though. Everybody sucks!



Off topic, but I don't trust that 60% failure rate number. It came from a forum or some poll that allowed anyone to vote. The problem with things like that is if someone is unhappy, they will voice their opinion, if someone isn't, they aren't nearly as likely to say anything.

If someone's 360 breaks you're off course going to hear something about it, but you never see people starting up a topic "I



Nintendo Wii: Late games in Europe, lazy ports, friend  System, pricey VC console games.

Xbox360 + PS3: Not Nintendo Wii. 



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Nintendo:

- For making budget party minigame collection crap games the main focus of the Wii...

- For being the port console...

- For changing the style of Zelda from the Windwaker style which would have looked a lot better on the Wii than TP did...

- For not having a demo channel on the Wii...

- For making someone get 3 different controllers to play everything on the Wii or even 4 to play GC backward compatible games...

Sony:

- For not releasing a version without Blu Ray...

- For having a crappy US PSN store compared to Japan and an even crappier Europe store...

- For still not having the option of changing the background on the PS3 even though it's so easy to implement...

- For the drought of games...

- For not having Home at launch...



Microsoft:

- For Having a retarded Core SKU...

- For Paying for online gaming...

- Insanely high failure rates cause you are making your consoles on the cheap...

- For Crappy microtransactions...

- For not having Japanese games in the US earlier even though you're an American company....

I can come up with so much more for each, but I think that's a good amount.



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