Stick around, it's just getting interesting.

You're totally taking what Jefferson out of context.  Jefferson was referring to the actual government and individual religions being connected.  You know, special treatment, tax exemptions, etc.  He had no problem with using your religious values as a part of the equation figure out who you wanted to vote for.  It makes sense that someone might want to vote for someone of their own religion as they know their core values and morals will be similar.

Also, it's ironic that that "separation of church and state" quote is used so much, even by the Supreme Court when it has no legal value whatsoever.  It's not in the constitution.  It's not in any law.  It was in some random letter he wrote to one group.  I have no idea why people keep spamming it in these discussions like it holds any more value than any other quote.  I'm not saying I disagree with the idea of separation, though, in case that wasn't clear.

Yes, I know. I was being a jackass. Apparently that wasn't clear enough.

 From Wikipedia:

 Dramatic (or tragic) irony is a disparity of expression and awareness: when words and actions possess a significance that the listener or audience understands, but the speaker or character does not.

Everyone in this thread, of course, is the audience.  And the key to dramatic irony is that the speaker doesn't realize it was an ironic statement. 

And, btw, everything in literature is possible outside literature....where do you think they get their muse? 

I don't see what was ironic about his statement

 Ok...he has no proof that Obama is the Antichrist, that he is gay, that he murdered his gay lover, that he is a communist, etc....and he had no problems stating those slanderous platitudes....yet wants to wait for more "evidence" before he calls him a fascist.

No irony there, huh? 

I can't figure out end times christians who take revelations as a prophecy and not some complaint about rome.

Wouldn't you WANT the Anti-Christ to show up since it would bring about the end times?

Even if it was the a prophecy i'd say it had been fufilled with the coming of Constantine... who basically fit everything in said chapters... except he was Christian himself... (or rather pretended to be...) and put christianity into power... and in doing so led to some of the worst warpings of christianity to occur including the political barganing of what was considered holy and what wasn't.

You mean YOU have no proof of those.  There are none so blind as those who will not see.

And exactly what proof do you have? I'm not an Obama fan whatsoever but your accusations are ridiculous. 

Well, see there's the problem.  We have a fundamentally different view of forums.  I look at the people in the thread as people involved in a conversation.  Obviously, it's not one way.  They can speak.  Thus, they're involved in what's going on and are not the audience.  I see situational irony.  You would not expect him to take a joke seriously, but he, in fact, does.  However, those words do not hold any particular value, so they couldn't be dramatic irony even in a speaker and audience situation.

Edit: @Super: Yeah, that last reply confirmed it.  You're mixing situational irony with dramatic irony.  Situational is where they do the opposite of what is expected.  This, he did.  However, dramatic irony is where the speaker unknowingly says something of significant value while the audience realizes it.