The Wii is great at doing bright, shiny, childlike graphics. Unfortunately Nintendo gimped the color pallete and only included one shade of brown.
| sc94597 said: I've been saying since I joned vgchartz. I believe the wii is 3 times more powerful than the original xbox/gamecube, and 4-6 times more powerful than the ps2. I beleive it is 4-6 times less powerful than the ps360, about the same difference between the ps2 and wii is the wii and hd consoles. Devs are far too lazy. High voltage, and Tecmo/Grasshopper, and nintendo are the only ones seem to try to make good wii graphics. |
I love my Wii and all, but I do think you're overestimating its graphical prowess here. By a lot. That said, it's never been the graphics that bothers me about the Wii (shoot, I still play NES games once in a while). No, the part that concerns me is the reports I've heard that the memory is too low for developers to do things like having advanced AI and the like. Mind you, from all the PC and HD console games I've played, developers don't take advantage of the hardware to give us good AI anyhow, but it's always nice to dream of a game where the computer's strategy doesn't come down to "charge!" in every situation...
Hey don't worry at least we get to see this from nintendo.
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noname2200 said:
I love my Wii and all, but I do think you're overestimating its graphical prowess here. By a lot. That said, it's never been the graphics that bothers me about the Wii (shoot, I still play NES games once in a while). No, the part that concerns me is the reports I've heard that the memory is too low for developers to do things like having advanced AI and the like. Mind you, from all the PC and HD console games I've played, developers don't take advantage of the hardware to give us good AI anyhow, but it's always nice to dream of a game where the computer's strategy doesn't come down to "charge!" in every situation... |
Explain how I'm overestimating it. The wii has far more memory, faster memory, more efficent cpu/ gpu by alot, and texture compression that the original xbox didn't have. Since when did you need alot of memory for AI? I'm pretty sure that is mostly done by the cpu.
You know, for once instead of blaming the developers and calling them lazy, why don't you blame the people who actually make decisions such as the executives setting budgets and timelines...
Sorry, but people constantly saying that its all the lazy developers fault pisses me off because often we (as I developer software) don't have that much say in what goes out in the final product.
edit: Just a final point, the games that look good and play good, probably got way more budget and likely had less strict deadlines than those that play like crap or look the same...
@kytiara, I don't think anyone really thinks the actual people developing are the cause. By saying devs I know I mean EA or Ubisoft as a whole, not sam walkin 4th year dev on team B.
Hence, why I talk about them using PS2 engines vs using/creating a Wii centric engine to get the best they can out of Wii.
TwilightPrince said:
You can believe that but it's not true. Just ask developers who have made games for both the Wii and Xbox. Nobody buys a Wii for graphics anyways so what's the big deal? |
Alright explain why it isnt true.
| Squilliam said: I thought the whole idea of the Wii was low development costs! If you start designing engines etc then your budget could easily be greater than a HD console game on a paid for engine. You also have a time delay factor as well to consider. |
It is no harder and probably easier to develop for the Wii than the PS2. It's familiar now but developers universally said it was a bitch to develop for. The Wii is the growing market, the PS2 is yesterday’s news. Let them make games for the Wii and then port them over to the PS2.
noname2200 said:
I love my Wii and all, but I do think you're overestimating its graphical prowess here. By a lot. That said, it's never been the graphics that bothers me about the Wii (shoot, I still play NES games once in a while). No, the part that concerns me is the reports I've heard that the memory is too low for developers to do things like having advanced AI and the like. Mind you, from all the PC and HD console games I've played, developers don't take advantage of the hardware to give us good AI anyhow, but it's always nice to dream of a game where the computer's strategy doesn't come down to "charge!" in every situation... |
That is a crock of sh*t. In the material there is more than one developer that isn't sure what all the memory it has is for. I didn't hear this f**cking whining when the Xbox was such hot sh*t and the Wii is more capable in every way.
I've been a photographer for 36 years and boy the one thing I learned was lousy photographers always blamed their equipment while good ones had equipment that worked fine. I can't help noticing that it's the POS publishers that just can't do it, the good ones do just fine.
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