Well get the Metal Gear Solid Essential collection. It includes Metal Gear Solid 1, 2 and 3. It's only $30.

billy07 said: Skip MGS3 it was dumbed down because of simple minded fools complaining they couldnt understand 2. If you play MGS for the story like every fan does and consider yourself intelligent get 1 and then 2. 3 is better left untouched.

i understood 2 fine...it was just a bad storyline, by far the worst game in the series.

SaviorX, its better to leave this guys opinion untouched...Metal Gear Solid 3 is the best game in the series.

Sicilian. said: billy07 said: Skip MGS3 it was dumbed down because of simple minded fools complaining they couldnt understand 2. If you play MGS for the story like every fan does and consider yourself intelligent get 1 and then 2. 3 is better left untouched. i understood 2 fine...it was just a bad storyline, by far the worst game in the series. SaviorX, its better to leave this guys opinion untouched...Metal Gear Solid 3 is the best game in the series.

I doubt you did. MGS3's philosophy was stripped down to bare bones during the ending cutscene. MGS2 had a whole hour devoted almost entirely to philosophical discussion. Infact the entire game was built around imparting messages Kojima wished to present. MGS2 was simply more intellectually stimulating than 3.

 

Sicilian. said: Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake-----NES/ Or Packed With MGS 3 Substience

MG2 wasn't on the NES.

disolitude said: Get MGS:Twin Snakes remake for gamecube first of all. Then play MGS3 substenence... 2 you can skip all together.

 @OP: Ignore this man and get the MGS Essential Collection.  MGS2 is a must play just like the rest.

Yakuzaice said: Sicilian. said: Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake-----NES/ Or Packed With MGS 3 Substience MG2 wasn't on the NES.

oopps sorry. it was on MSX2 in japan only

billy07 said: Sicilian. said: billy07 said: Skip MGS3 it was dumbed down because of simple minded fools complaining they couldnt understand 2. If you play MGS for the story like every fan does and consider yourself intelligent get 1 and then 2. 3 is better left untouched. i understood 2 fine...it was just a bad storyline, by far the worst game in the series. SaviorX, its better to leave this guys opinion untouched...Metal Gear Solid 3 is the best game in the series. I doubt you did. MGS3's philosophy was stripped down to bare bones during the ending cutscene. MGS2 had a whole hour devoted almost entirely to philosophical discussion. Infact the entire game was built around imparting messages Kojima wished to present. MGS2 was simply more intellectually stimulating than 3.

Dude i have been a fan since metal gear was realease on the nes in 1987. not to mention i am a collector of metal gear merchandise  . I think i understand the games just and much as you if not more..... obviously your not much of a fan to tell someone to skip a game completely. I didnt say that metal gear solid 2 was a bad game i just said the storyline is the worst. 

Sicilian. said: billy07 said: Sicilian. said: billy07 said: Skip MGS3 it was dumbed down because of simple minded fools complaining they couldnt understand 2. If you play MGS for the story like every fan does and consider yourself intelligent get 1 and then 2. 3 is better left untouched. i understood 2 fine...it was just a bad storyline, by far the worst game in the series. SaviorX, its better to leave this guys opinion untouched...Metal Gear Solid 3 is the best game in the series. I doubt you did. MGS3's philosophy was stripped down to bare bones during the ending cutscene. MGS2 had a whole hour devoted almost entirely to philosophical discussion. Infact the entire game was built around imparting messages Kojima wished to present. MGS2 was simply more intellectually stimulating than 3.   Dude i have been a fan since metal gear was realease on the nes in 1987. not to mention i am a collector of metal gear merchandise . I think i understand the games just and much as you if not more..... obviously your not much of a fan to tell someone to skip a game completely. I didnt stay that metal gear solid 2 was a bad game i just said the storyline is the worst.

The storyline of 2 is by far the best. I won't repeat myself but I think I outlined how MGS2 is a far more mentally stimulating and satisfying experience than MGS3. MGS3 was just an entertaining hollywood like action storyline, so what, those kind of storylines are a dime a dozen in hollywood. The complex post modern plot of MGS2 that was so intricately entwined with meaninghful philosophy however is very rare indeed. 

 

billy07 said: Sicilian. said: billy07 said: Sicilian. said: billy07 said: Skip MGS3 it was dumbed down because of simple minded fools complaining they couldnt understand 2. If you play MGS for the story like every fan does and consider yourself intelligent get 1 and then 2. 3 is better left untouched. i understood 2 fine...it was just a bad storyline, by far the worst game in the series. SaviorX, its better to leave this guys opinion untouched...Metal Gear Solid 3 is the best game in the series. I doubt you did. MGS3's philosophy was stripped down to bare bones during the ending cutscene. MGS2 had a whole hour devoted almost entirely to philosophical discussion. Infact the entire game was built around imparting messages Kojima wished to present. MGS2 was simply more intellectually stimulating than 3.   Dude i have been a fan since metal gear was realease on the nes in 1987. not to mention i am a collector of metal gear merchandise . I think i understand the games just and much as you if not more..... obviously your not much of a fan to tell someone to skip a game completely. I didnt stay that metal gear solid 2 was a bad game i just said the storyline is the worst. The storyline of 2 is by far the best. I won't repeat myself but I think I outlined how MGS2 is a far more mentally stimulating and satisfying experience than MGS3. MGS3 was just an entertaining hollywood like action storyline, so what, those kind of storylines are a dime a dozen in hollywood. The complex post modern plot of MGS2 that was so intricately entwined with meaninghful philosophy however is very rare indeed.

Yeah it really racked my brain trying to figure out how anybody could take a game seriously for philosophical values when the villian is a surgically grafted hand controlling an old man. Oh, and walking dinosaur-like nuclear tanks, complete with animal roars for added effect. Oh, and the cameo of Doctor Octopus in the game.

 

Onyxmeth said: billy07 said: Sicilian. said: billy07 said: Sicilian. said: billy07 said: Skip MGS3 it was dumbed down because of simple minded fools complaining they couldnt understand 2. If you play MGS for the story like every fan does and consider yourself intelligent get 1 and then 2. 3 is better left untouched. i understood 2 fine...it was just a bad storyline, by far the worst game in the series. SaviorX, its better to leave this guys opinion untouched...Metal Gear Solid 3 is the best game in the series. I doubt you did. MGS3's philosophy was stripped down to bare bones during the ending cutscene. MGS2 had a whole hour devoted almost entirely to philosophical discussion. Infact the entire game was built around imparting messages Kojima wished to present. MGS2 was simply more intellectually stimulating than 3.   Dude i have been a fan since metal gear was realease on the nes in 1987. not to mention i am a collector of metal gear merchandise . I think i understand the games just and much as you if not more..... obviously your not much of a fan to tell someone to skip a game completely. I didnt stay that metal gear solid 2 was a bad game i just said the storyline is the worst. The storyline of 2 is by far the best. I won't repeat myself but I think I outlined how MGS2 is a far more mentally stimulating and satisfying experience than MGS3. MGS3 was just an entertaining hollywood like action storyline, so what, those kind of storylines are a dime a dozen in hollywood. The complex post modern plot of MGS2 that was so intricately entwined with meaninghful philosophy however is very rare indeed.   Yeah it really racked my brain trying to figure out how anybody could take a game seriously for philosophical values when the villian is a surgically grafted hand controlling an old man. Oh, and walking dinosaur-like nuclear tanks, complete with animal roars for added effect. Oh, and the cameo of Doctor Octopus in the game.

 yes, because a guy covered in bees another who walks like a spider and can become invisible, a spaceman who screams fury and the sorrow were very realistic characters. MGS3 felt like a 007 parody, it didnt take itself seriously enough. And do you you actually believe a fantasy setting automatically means that the philosophical implications regarding identity, memes, censorship, "truths", human nature, freewill and others are meaningless? Your argument is weak, the story incorporating fantasy elements (which were still no where near the level of MGS3's ridiculousness) doesn't take away from an underlying messages or morals that Kojima wished player to reflect upon.