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Well, ask naznatips. They are probably on a higher %age than Megaman...




naznatips said:

Updated odds of entry list. Keep in mind these factors contributed to this: The fact that there only seem to be room for 5 characters per sticker suggests no more than 5 characters per franchise. This means that the Mario characters for example other than Mario, Luigi, Peach, and Bowser dropped way down in odds, because although Yoshi is technically his own franchise, he'll most likely share a spot with the Mario characters on franchise exclusive stickers.  Also keep in mind that we are still looking for a franchise to fill the last empty spot... hence Isaac's fairly high odds.

Unconfirmed (est. odds of entry)

Luigi (99%)

Captain Falcon (99%)
Ganondorf (99%)
Jigglypuff (99%)
Ness (99%)

Mr. Game and Watch (95%)
Marth (85%)
Falco (75%)
Y. Link (15%)
Roy (10%)
Mewtwo (1%)
Dr. Mario (1%)

Lucario (99%)

Krystal (85%)
K. Rool (85%)
Animal Crossing Villager (65%)

Isaac (60%)

Ridley (50%)
Mii (40%)

Geno (30%)
Balloon Fighter (30%)
Black Shadow (20%)
Baby Mario & Luigi (1%)
Tails (1%)
Robotnik (1%)
Knuckles (1%)
Raiden (1%)
Bowser Jr. (1%)

Krystal isn't a very important character, and I don't think she's more popular or worthwhile than Falco. Her odds may be over 50% due to the voice actor thing, but I don't think they're higher than Falco's or as high as Marth and K. Rool's.

Isaac with 60%??? That's crazy. You're basically saying he is more likely to appear than not, when there are tons of franchises which could fill that last spot, a few of which you listed yourself with Mii and Balloon Fighter. His major boost may come as being a "GBA rep," if every system must be repped.

Geno seems like the one highly suggested character with basically no chance. He's simply an inimportant character overall. Potential copyright issues with Square knock him even lower.

Balloon Fighter is way too high too. The story from Melee was that they chose Ice Climbers to represent the Famicom because BF wasn't practical enough. Furthermore, BF game elements are in the IC stage. So I'd list BF down at the bottom.

And again, as DS proves, the last franchise may not have a character at all! There could be a Mii parade level or a Brain Age level or a Duck Hunt level or something else which has nothing to do with any playable character. So there's no reason to rank any particular new franchise character very highly. I'd say Isaac, Mii and unlisted Wild Gunman, possible "Wars" character, Sheriff and many more are interesting ideas, though none with a particularly high chance.

And lastly, characters who have been seen as trophies haven't necesarily been ruled out. Dixie Kong comes to mind.



"[Our former customers] are unable to find software which they WANT to play."
"The way to solve this problem lies in how to communicate what kind of games [they CAN play]."

Satoru Iwata, Nintendo President. Only slightly paraphrased.

I am pretty sure there is going to be an Animal Crossing character.

As you can see, Japanese writting and then cut off.

Once again Japanese writting followed by playable characters.

Now you see no Japanese writting/no playable characters. (Probably to hide Marth since it's FE)

Unless Magic goes with any magic and slash with all slashing attacks I think we have proof of AC character. Plus the obvious leaf symbol and the stage.  



L.C.E.C. said:
Well, ask naznatips. They are probably on a higher %age than Megaman...

Haha yeah they would be. 



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Erik Aston said:

Krystal isn't a very important character, and I don't think she's more popular or worthwhile than Falco. Her odds may be over 50% due to the voice actor thing, but I don't think they're higher than Falco's or as high as Marth and K. Rool's.

Isaac with 60%??? That's crazy. You're basically saying he is more likely to appear than not, when there are tons of franchises which could fill that last spot, a few of which you listed yourself with Mii and Balloon Fighter. His major boost may come as being a "GBA rep," if every system must be repped.

Geno seems like the one highly suggested character with basically no chance. He's simply an inimportant character overall.

Balloon Fighter is way too high too. The story from Melee was that they chose Ice Climbers to represent the Famicom because BF wasn't practical enough. Furthermore, BF game elements are in the IC stage. So I'd list BF down at the bottom.

And again, as DS proves, the last franchise may not have a character at all! There could be a Mii parade level or a Brain Age level or a Duck Hunt level or something else which has nothing to do with any playable character. So there's no reason to rank any particular new franchise character very highly. I'd say Isaac, Mii and unlisted Wild Gunman, possible "Wars" character, Sheriff and many more are interesting ideas, though none with a particularly high chance.

And lastly, characters who have been seen as trophies haven't necesarily been ruled out. Dixie Kong comes to mind.


Krystal's odds of entry are so high because she was high on Sakurai's poll. In fact, not only was she high, she was one of the highest. Add to that the fact that she uses a staff, and giving her unique moves will be easy, and the voice actor thing, and her odds are very good.

Balloon Fighter's odds were slaughtered by his fish being in IC's stage. The fish in the stage suggests that the Balloon Fighter doesn't have a stage of his own, and therefor is most likely not in the game. The Mii suffers from Animal Crossing Villager's high odds. Would there really include 2 characters with such generic tools as these would have to use? I argue not, and since AC Villager already has a level, he's up top right now.

Because no one else has anywhere near high odds, Isaac is getting the tip as the most likely to fill that spot. There is no reason not to. That said, yes, it could still be a "Wii" symbol for a Mii channel, but I would have expected a Wii symbol franchise icon to be right before or after the DS franchise icon, but it is neither. This is speculation of course, but what else do we have to go on? I would say this means the DS franchise icon has no partner Wii icon. It's still possible though, I agree, and I have no objections to lowering Isaac down to 50%.



Here were the results of his poll on the old site if anyone forgot:

King Dedede(5) - Confirmed
Diddy Kong(4) - Confirmed
Geno(4)
Ike(4) - Confirmed
Ridley(4)
Captain Olimar & Pikmin(3) - Confirmed
Krystal(3)
Takamaru(3)
Windwaker Link(3)
Animal Crossing MC(2)
Claus(2)
Demiru(2)
Isaac(2)
Jeff(2)
Kawasima(2)
King K.Rool(2)
Lip(2)
Lucas(2) - Confirmed
Mega Man(2)
Oguma(2)
Ouendan(2)
Sukapon(2)

Assuming Geno is basically by default gone (due to difficulties of acquiring his intellectual property), 4 of the top 7 are already in the game. Otheres like Isaac and Animal Crossing MC who also scored high have fairly high odds as well. Krystal, being so near the top, of course has very good odds.



Yay! WW Link has a chance! :)



RCTjunkie said:
Yay! WW Link has a chance! :)


15%, due to his attempts to avoid clones.

Maybe I wasn't clear enough, Naz.

I agree that Balloon Fighter has little chance. We have plenty of evidence against him, as I stated. So why do you give him nearly 1/3 chances of being in? Drop him to 5%.

Geno too. It isn't necesarily a problem of Square owning him... It could also be that Nintendo and Square never worked out the details of IP ownership for a one-time deal, and Geno isn't enough reason to work it out now. Either way, drop him to 5%.

And Isaac needs to drop down to 10 or 20%. There's just no reason to assume he has a 50/50 chance. The franchise icon means nothing, and there's plenty of other franchises anyways.



"[Our former customers] are unable to find software which they WANT to play."
"The way to solve this problem lies in how to communicate what kind of games [they CAN play]."

Satoru Iwata, Nintendo President. Only slightly paraphrased.