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Too bad FLUDD deals no damage at all. :-/

and people are still confused about the character icons? I will post a FAQ about the icons created by Random_Guy_42 of GameFAQs on January 9th:

 

 

 

Our newest addition today was the Pikmin icon, bringing the total up to 20, and increasing the list length to 22!

1: Smash Bros Logo (Smash Bros.)
2: “DK” Logo (Donkey Kong)
3: Great Fox Emblem (Star Fox)
4: Warp Star (Kirby)
5: “F-Zero” Logo (F-Zero)
6: Screw Attack (Metroid)
7: Earth (Earthbound)
8: Pokeball (Pokemon)
9: Triforce (Legend of Zelda)
10: Mushroom (Mario)
11: Egg (Yoshi)
12: Sword (Fire Emblem)
13: <Unknown, presumed to be Game & Watch>
14: Eggplant (Ice Climber)
15: Leaf (Animal Crossing)
16: “W” (WarioWare)
17: FOXHOUND/Kojima Productions Emblem (Metal Gear)
18: Bow & Arrow (Kid Icarus)
19: ?
20: Sonic (Sonic the Hedgehog)
21: DS Logo (Nintendo DS Console)
22: Flower (Pikmin)


Icon 19 remains unconfirmed, so Brawl still has a slot for one new franchise! Speculate on which it may be!

There is only one known icon that has not yet been used, and that is the Game & Watch Face from SSBM.


In previous postings of this list, I have seen a number of posts along the lines of “What is
this list?”, “Why are they arranged like that?”, “Why is Wario number 16?”, “Why does the list only go to 22?” etc. To prevent these kinds of questions, I’ve included a Mini-FAQ (Next Post) which I hope will answer some of these questions.

Before we begin, I would like to draw attention to one point in particular, and that is: “Why does the list only go to 22?” It’s simple. This list only goes to 22 because that is the highest icon number we know of, the Pikmin icon. There may be, and probably are, numbers with icons higher then that. We just don’t know of them.

Icon FAQ


So what the heck is this list all about anyway?

As most of you have probably noticed, every update has a little icon in the top left corner. Some of these updates get the generic Smash icon (the one that’s behind the percentages of the Wire Frames, the Hands and Giga Bowser in Melee), however, most updates have icons that relate to the franchise they originated from. (Mario has the Mushroom, Link has the Triforce, etc.)

If you right-click these icons and view the source link for the images, you’ll see a link which ends in “world_b_##.gif”, where the ## is the number for whichever icon you are viewing. Taking the numbers on the end of these links and arranging them numerically gives us our above list. Also, the “b” in the link can be interchanged with a “w” to alternate between black and white backgrounds. There’s nothing fancy hidden in that part.

Since this was first discovered way back with the Mario and Link update, there have been many theories has to how these series corresponded with their numerical order, from it being simply alphabetical, to being the same as chronological release of the series. One of these theories was that the icons were loosely based on an order that went from original SSB icons, to Melee icons, to Brawl icons. As more icons were released, it became apparent that this tread was indeed being seen, so it is widely accepted as correct for the time being. It was previously thought that 3rd Party characters in Brawl would have their icons at the end of the list, but Snakes placement on the list has proven this is incorrect.

But hold on! What about items? Might they have their own icons, which would throw off this list?
As the icons are seen behind the damage percentages, and as items do not receive a damage tally, they don’t have their own icon. In Melee, we had the items like the Flipper (Balloon Fight) and Lip’s Stick (Panel de Pon) that were from games without playable characters and still had no icon. Dr. Wright has shown us this is the case for Brawl also, as his update featured the Brawl icon, and not some icon from SimCity.

So why bother showing us this list anyway? What’s the significance?

Excellent question. Prior to the announcement of the “Smashville” stage people had used this list to determine that there would be at least one other new series making its way into Brawl. This is because adding all the known icons at that point added up to 17, one less then Pit’s number of 18. To clarify, the Smash icon sits in the number one spot, and the original Smash gives us ten icons (Mario/Luigi & Pikachu/Jigglypuff share an icon each) totaling eleven icons. Adding in the three from Melee (Ice Climbers, Fire Emblem and Game & Watch) gave us fourteen, and adding the new icons in Brawl that are known (Kid Icarus, Wario and Metal Gear) (Meta Knight and ZSS don’t count, as they have the Kirby and Metroid icons respectively.) gave us our seventeen. This list was also used to determine whether a Mother character would be in (That symbol was the last SSB icon revealed at 7, so many assumed it would go there) and we may also be able to follow this up with Game & Watch’s inclusion if his icon turns out to be 13.

Because AC has a franchise icon along with all the other playable fighters, many believe that AC will have a playable fighter as well. However, it is still not yet known whether an AC character will join the fighting roster. The inclusion of the DS icon is seen by the disbelievers as refuting this theory, but others believe that the DS icon may be the exception, or that it may have a character itself. Who knows?

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Gamerace said:
naznatips said:
DonWii said:
^I'm sure Luigi will have his Poltergust 3000 from Luigi's Mansion.



Agreed.  I think Luigi will much more different from Mario than he was the past two games.  I do think Ness and Lucas will be very nearly identical though.  That's fine with me.  I don't mind one or two near-clones.  


Well, if we have Mario/Luigi and Lucas/Ness then there's a good chance we'll have Starfox/Falco (and/or Wolf) again too.   Definately not Pichu nor Dr. Mario (did anyone use Dr.M?) though.   I think we pretty much all assume Ganandorf will have a unique moveset this time.


 I used Dr Mario, though i dont mind if hes out, id prefer him to be one of marios costumes. I was only really the Dr to be different, though i got pretty dam good with him in the end.



People are still calling him Starfox? >_< Star Fox is the name of his team, his name is just Fox! >_>



I like Bacon said:
People are still calling him Starfox? >_< Star Fox is the name of his team, his name is just Fox! >_>

 No, his full name is Fox McCloud.




duh, but I find it sad.......and hilarious!...when people call him Starfox.

I wanted Fox, Falco (half-cloned, keep the blaster and shine), and Wolf playble (completely new moveset).

But with Fox in his Dark Fox costume, that lowers Wolf's chances IMO and I hate Krystal!

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DonWii said:
^Yup. I'm sure Fox/Falco will return

Also, if Ganondorf has a sword, he could have a moveset that is half magic(Zelda), half sword(Big like Ike).

That would be pretty kool.
 Well, considering Link, Zelda and even Sheik are Twilight Princess design, it seems pretty much certain that Ganondorf will have the sage's sword

 



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Cute, aren't they? More in my profile (I made them, lol)

Ganondorf with a sword will be badass.  I hate how he was a clone of Captain Falcon, all they did was add purple to his moves (yes I know they changed attacks and speed and stuff too)



I like Bacon said:
Ganondorf with a sword will be badass.  I hate how he was a clone of Captain Falcon, all they did was add purple to his moves (yes I know they changed attacks and speed and stuff too)

 Yeah Ganondorf with sword and some cool magic attaks an transforming into Ganon as Final Smash, it will be awsome.



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I want Windwaker Link :'(...



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StarcraftManiac said:
I want Windwaker Link :'(...

I do too!