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SamuelRSmith said:
What I never understand is how people can say Adam and Eve were first, yet we have evidence that fish like creatures, small lizards and even dinosaurs existed before man.

Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. Hold up. You're going way too fast. Adam and Eve were the first "people". Of course many animals existed before them.



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The egg. Though it is a poor substitute for the Health Spray, or a Red+Green Herb mix when you are low on health.



a.l.e.x59 - When you read the bible, something about God creating the Earth in six days, resting on the last... it makes no mention of him placing dinosaurs on the earth, or any prehistoric creatures. In fact, if you read the bible it makes out that everything that exists today, existed then and nothing else. I read no story of massive extinction in the bible.



Yes it does, actually.



Gice me a verse, a quote, or something. Do that, I'll look it up and if it's correct I'll admit I'm wrong.



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I will.



Well it does not talk abut massive extinction per se, even though in noah's ark its common knoledge that God was angry at what the world had become... so he told noah to take one pair of each animal into his ark and navigate for 40 days and 40 nights. That would be the "massive extinction" Alex would be referring... But that story is really flawed... neither could noah have reunited animals from all continent in his ark, nor could he have built an ark that could hold every species in the world. Im a catholic guy, and I know my church's mythology... I consider myself agnostic, becuas eI believe there is a higher being... But I think its something like Chrono Cross in which an external being (an extraterrestrial) helped develop and activating human intelligence and evolution... I also don't think we are being watched by this hypothetical being.. he just came, changed us and never looked back. I also have a very hard time trusting whatever the church tells me, becase of what they did in the dark ages... Also any affirmation loses a lot of credibility when you use God as an answer, so it would be wise to left religion out of this... (it is also really controversial)



The thing about the chicken/egg debate is that it can't be answered conclusively unless one defines the term "egg" in this context.

 1. If by "egg" one means any egg--not just a chicken egg--then the egg came first, because many species laid eggs before the chicken existed.

2. If by "egg" one means a "chicken egg," and if by "chicken egg" one means an egg that hatched into a chicken (but was not necessarily laid by a chicken), then the egg came first.

3. If by "egg" one means a "chicken egg," and if by "chicken egg" one means an egg that was laid by a chicken, then the chicken came first.

4. If one believe that some supernatural being created a bunch of dust out of nothing, and then created a chicken or egg out of that dust, then I suppose he/she/it could have created either first... but I'm not really into that sort of thing.

I know people have already articulated some of those ideas here, but I just wanted to put it all in once place!



Dolla Dolla said:

Someone please explain this!



SamuelRSmith said:
Gice me a verse, a quote, or something. Do that, I'll look it up and if it's correct I'll admit I'm wrong.

I don't have a bible in front of me right now, but when I do, I'll be sure to get back to you.