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@gebx,

This LIST is a list of exclusive games for x360, since it`s launch till today (i.e.) after 2,5 years. In this list are only absolute exclusives for Europe and USA, which are not available on any other platform, in other words, games which would make you buy x360.

Scores are from GameRankings.com and MetaCritic.com:
Ace combat 6 81 and 80
America's Army: True Soldiers (44) and (43)
Amped 3 (74) and (72)
Beautiful Katamari (73) and (73)
Blue Dragon (77) and (79)
Bomberman: Act Zero (34) and (34)
Bullet Witch (57) and (55)
Chromehounds (72) and (71)
Crackdown (84) and (83)
Culdcept Saga (73) and (72)
Dance Dance Revolution Universe (75) and (74)
Dance Dance Revolution Universe 2 (71) and (67)
Dead or Alive 4 (86) and (85)
Dead or Alive Xtreme 2 (53) and (53)
Dead Rising (85) and (85)
Earth Defense Force 2017 (71) and (71)
Forza Motorsport 2 (90) and (90)
Full Auto (71) and (70)
Fuzion Frenzy 2 (51) and (49)
Halo 3 (93) and (94)
Import Tuner Challenge (53) and (54)
Kameo: Elements of Power (81) and (79)
Kengo: Legend of the 9 (45) and (38)
Lost Odyssey (78) and (75)
MotoGP '06 (80) and (80)
Naruto: Rise of a Ninja (78) and (78)
Ninety-Nine Nights (63) and (61)
The Outfit (70) and (70)
Over G Fighters (53) and (49)
Perfect Dark Zero (81) and (81)
Project Gotham Racing 3 (89) and (88)
Project Gotham Racing 4 (86) and (85)
Project Sylpheed (66) and (64)
Ridge Racer 6 (75) and (74)
Rumble Roses XX (63) and (62)
Saints Row (82) and (81)
Tenchu Z (57) and (55)
Tetris Evolution (57) and (52)
Viva Pinata: Party Animals (58) and (55)
WarTech: Senko No Ronde (61) and (59)

Total: 40

The score in range 3+ 1 and 2
The score in range 4+ 2 and 3
The score in range 5+ 8 and 7
The score in range 6+ 4 and 4
The score in range 7+ 13 and 13
The score in range 8+ 10 and 9
The score in range 9+ 2 and 2

@hentai_11,
nice try, but are you sure, that these games will make people to jump from ps2 to wii? =))
and most of these games are really average.. NOT Great.



Every 5 seconds on earth one child dies from hunger...

2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far

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RPGJock said:


You can say that about the whole Wii/Nintendo business model. While Sony and Microsoft are waving their collective penises at each other, Nintendo's K.I.S.S. strategy for the masses have garned them the "powerhouse title" of this generation. No graphics, online features, price drops, blockbusters games, or PR is going to change that. Its called popularity mindshare and Nintendo has that in droves. Wheather or not the console actually deserves it, doesn't matter anymore, popular votes win, and there is a hell alot of "them" then there are of "us"

Now its just a race of who will end up in second place when it all said and done.


Maybe I've misunderstood you, but surely the Wii is the only current gen console that doesn't have the "powerhouse title" of this generation. Seriously, if you're not talking about GTA4, what the hell are you talking about!?!?!

And what is the K.I.S.S. strategy? Have they hired Gene Simmons to be their PR guy? Or do you mean that they will make most of their money through shameless merchandising (just like the band)?

@ Grampy

Well, Gramps, you may be older but I'm not so sure you are wiser!

1280x1024 is not higher than 1920x1080, and CoD at any resolution is considerably less "pretty" than CoD4 at 1024x600 due to far more important aesthetic considerations such as polygon count, texture resolution and graphical effects such as HDR, AA, AF etc. Sure, if you have a decent setup you could play CoD4 on PC at higher resolutions and with better f/x than on PS360, but judging by your inability to master a gamepad, I think you might flounder with the more complex keyboard/mouse configuration! After all, teaching an old dog new tricks is about as productive as teaching a pig to sing, right?

"I don’t want to drive a car with my fricking thumbs or learn button combinations that make playing a piano look easy."

Yet, in almost every conceivable example, electronic or mechanical devices (whether consumer or industrial) use buttons, triggers and analogue sticks, and NOT infrared pointing devices or accelerometer-based motion controls. Why? Because they are far more practical in almost any given situation. That is why many people, like me, believe the wiimote to be little more than an amusing novelty. It simply offers no practical advantage over traditional control schemes (nor does a stylus - when was the last time you saw a stylophone? They were popular once!). I, for one, would not want to drive a car using a wiimote, and I don't see the "classic controller" (i.e. a steering wheel) being replaced anytime soon.

Also, I am one of the people that expects the Wii bubble to burst. I, and the innumerable professional analysts that agree with me, have very good reasons for believing that to be the case, and despite what you may think, it has nothing to do with an inabilty to perform a simple extrapolation of current sales trends.

As I never tire of pointing out, everyone's favourite videogame analyst, Michael Pachter, predicted that Wii sales would increase in 2008 over 2007, and that looks to be the case; he predicted that the Wii would dominate the market for 2 years, which also looks to be the case; and he predicted that the PS3 would narrowly "win" the generation when all is said and done...

"Drowning in the Blue Ocean" is something I expect Nintendo to do in time. Incidentally, Sean Malstrom is a Nintendo writer and has a professional bias. Judging by the article you link to, he also has a gift for fudging the truth beyond all recognition. I literally wouldn't know where to start in ripping apart his poorly thought out Nintendo promo. The graphs were the icing on the cake - he just applies numerical values to his own opinions and then comments on it as though it were legitimate data! (The NES one is a personal favourite)

OT: ... actually, after all that, I have nothing to say about the topic at hand other than that article was probably written just to get hits from incredulous Playstation and Wii fans, which it has obviously accomplished admirably.



CrazzyMan said:
3rd parties are not making good games on wii, well, maximum, there will be few good games from 3rd parties this year.
if you are nintendo fan, then you will be fine with games released from nintendo, but looking at last home console sales it was like 25-30 mln.

Yes, now nintendo will get some love from casual users(which could be a lot of people or not). But if very doubtfull, that they will get love from ps2 usersbase of 125 mln., which probably will get ps3.

It`s very soon, probably by the end of summer, every nintendo fan will have Wii. After that, it will be really interesting to see sales.
40k in Japan was only the begining. Golden week saved it a little this week.

Name me:
Great fighting games on Wii

Brawl

Bleach: Shattered Blade

Dragon Ball Z Budokai Tenkaichi 2 and 3

Street Fighter IV

FaceBreaker

 

Great slashers

Star Wars: Force Unleashed(will probably be the best version)

Rygar

 

Great horrors

RE4

Fatal Frame 4

Alone in the Dark

 

Great strategy games.

Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn (I'm not too well-versed in this genre)


Great jrpgs.

Tales of Symphonia 2

Final Fantasy Chrystal Chronicles: The Chrystal Bearers

Final Fantasy Chrystal Chronicles: My Life As A King

Dragon Quest Swords

A few more in development from Square whose names I can't think of

 

Great FPS games.

Medal of Honour

Metroid Prime

Conduit

CoD5

Red Steel 2 (which can be given hope for AAA status if Killzone 2 can)

Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles

Dragon Quest Swords


Great 3d plarform games. Are you seriously asking this? 

Super Mario Galaxy (Only the highest-rated platformer ever made)

Another main-series Mario promised

Sonic and the Secret Rings (Which rocks the boxers off the PS360 Sonic)

Sonic Unleashed (Lead platform btw)

Lego Star Wars

Lego Indiana Jones

 

Great 3rd person action games.

Battallion Wars

That robot game that was just announced for Wii and PC (can't recall the name, but it looks amazing)

RE4 (Yes, it goes under two categories)

Scarface

Godfather

Bully

Which coming not from nintendo For not nintendo fan. Wii has not much to offer to PS2 user.


 I haven't read every post in the thread, but those should do for now.

 Also, I notice you conveniently forgot the adventure and sports genres, and all the non-traditional action games available on Wii:

Zelda

Okami

Zack and Wiki 

Trauma Centre 1 and 2

 PES, Madden, etc.

Mario Strikers

Mario Baseball

 

So, in conclusion.... what? 

 

@Played_Out: K.I.S.S. is a term usually used in business, meaning 'Keep It Simple, Stupid'  



Could I trouble you for some maple syrup to go with the plate of roffles you just served up?

Tag, courtesy of fkusumot: "Why do most of the PS3 fanboys have avatars that looks totally pissed?"
"Ok, girl's trapped in the elevator, and the power's off.  I swear, if a zombie comes around the next corner..."

Funny, not only that CrazzyMan is so fantastically optimistic about how the PS2 owners are going to migrate to the PS3, but how hard he still bashes the Wii.


@Grampy,

Those Malstrom articles many here should read or at least scim through. Makes you realize how times change, and how smart Nintendo were coming into this gen.

But I don't know, ask CrazzyMan and he will still believe that everyone is waiting for the next Final Fantasy.



@Grampy: You are awesome. Please stay on the forums. Crazzyman will not read your posts.

@ssj12: The difference between Singstar and Wii Sports is that Nintendo completely concentrated on Wii Sports, while Singstar was (and still is) Sony's "side project." Sony has had the EyeToy for years and could have easily built a Wii Sports on the PS2. Maybe they did. But they'd never advertise it. Now that Nintendo has proven simple games are fun, Sony will play catch up. And of course so will all the 3rd party publishers who threw half-baked minigame compilations together.

@OT: The fact that the author still thinks the Wii Bubble is going to burst makes me lol. If he's going to link VGChartz, he should at least try to read some of the threads.



There is no such thing as a console war. This is the first step to game design.

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PooperScooper said:
 

HAHAHAHA you think I give a fuck what some dude I've never spoken to before thinks about games?

The only thing that matters is my opinion. not an "industry" so dont throw that desprate bullshit at me. and In my opinon the games I listed rank higher than the 360 games.

Viva Pinata - Incredibly annoying.
Halo - Whats that? starcraft FPS? NO WAI!
Crackdown - I found myself climbing ferris wheels and staying in the off road arena rather than completing the game.
Gears of War - Overrated. Weak story. 4 on 4 multiplayer. Small maps. Not only was it a weak story but it did not explain a god damn thing. Being left out in the dark is fine... unless it's something really big being left out.
Shadow Run - HAHAHAHAHAHAHA < enough said
Hell Raising - Fun for 30 minutes. Had the same problem as crack down. I found myself doing ridiculous things with zombies than finishing the game.
Bioshock - just wasn't for me
Mass Effect - Doesn't interest me < I'll admit this is a game on my list that I havent played yet.

I think the only game I finished on my list was Gears of War... Now tell me that those games are triple A's for me.

I'm not starcraft. I'm not YOU! I don't get brainwashed from a company because they are force feeding me garbage and telling me I SHOULD like it. I'm not gonna allow something I don't like forced down my throat and then with a smile on my face ask for seconds just because it's expensive gourmet cooking that all the people who are somebody's has to like (I'll keep my hot dogs over caviar any day). NO THANK YOU I HAVE A BRAIN! "Hey cool Microsoft crippled me and I cant walk anymore! What's this Microsoft? Crutches? No way! I needed these ever since you broke my legs! Thank you so much!!!!! I love you guys"


I couldn't disagree more strongly with your assertion that 360 owners are eating dirt for games and liking it because we're either brainwashed or don't have a brain.  However, I did find that last comment very, very funny.  Thanks, I needed the laugh.

 



ssj12 said:
 

Your logic is there but I think your singling out casual games liek SingStar, Buzz, LittleBigPlanet, Go Sports, PixelJunk Monsters, Poker, and a bunch of other titles.

You speaking for some 120 million PS2 owners, 110 PS1 owners who skipped a generation, and i will throw in the xbox owners, and GC owners, and maybe even some PC owners that they aren;t flocking to the PS3. Well I;m sorry gramps but you don't have the voice of that many people. You can not speak for that many people because you never spoke every single on of them. They aren't all flocking to the Wii. They also aren't all flocking to the PC, PS3, or 360. They are deciding because they are waiting for games that interest them, and price cuts.

BC is obviously not half as important as you are saying either because even though its a jice bonus, I have the 60GB model, I have no used the BC since I bought GOW2. Not everyone cares about BC and if they do they can buy a PS2. Sony has proven that BC isnt that important. How? well look at the sales. The PS3 is on route for 2nd place without it.

Your just like the rest of your entire generation. You think you know the world. Guess what YOU DONT. Let the people who understand the world better and will fix your generation's screw ups for our children run this world.


ssj12... I'm surprised you haven't been banned for this, and I'm very tempted to report your post.  You have effectively turned an argument about video gaming consoles into a strong personal insult against a generation of people.  You say Grampy doesn't speak for all PS2 owners... true enough.  But do you now speak for the "current" generation when condemning all those who came before you?

Not cool.



DOATS1 said:
gebx said:
PooperScooper said:
I love how people present personal prefrence as fact.

Why compare warhawk to frontlines? why not compare it to ... ulgh... shadowrun....

fact of the matter you guys say "360 is da best" and i say r&c, uncharted, warhawk, resistance, heavenly sword are better than halo, mass effect, crackdown, gears of war, viva pinata, shadow run, hell raising, and bioshock

Bolded part is the problem... it's not us 360 fanboys on these forums.. its the F**King INDUSTRY!! The critics and reviewers!

Games that have a 75% or higher average on metacritic.com

360 - 152

PS3 - 69

 


bad, bad defence me friend. i can't believe somebody hasn't ripped this to shreds yet. how could you possibly use this some kind of arguement?? 360 HAS MORE GAMES to get rated, how can you compare? 360 porbably has double the library the ps3 does, there's a reason for that too: it's been out a year longer. they don't have even near the same amount of games so how could you use this as any sort of evidence?


As proof that the 360 has a better library?

Bill Gates still has more money then me despite the fact that he's older then I am.  The fact that he has a head start in no way changes the reality that he has more money.

crumas2 said:
ssj12 said:
 

Your logic is there but I think your singling out casual games liek SingStar, Buzz, LittleBigPlanet, Go Sports, PixelJunk Monsters, Poker, and a bunch of other titles.

You speaking for some 120 million PS2 owners, 110 PS1 owners who skipped a generation, and i will throw in the xbox owners, and GC owners, and maybe even some PC owners that they aren;t flocking to the PS3. Well I;m sorry gramps but you don't have the voice of that many people. You can not speak for that many people because you never spoke every single on of them. They aren't all flocking to the Wii. They also aren't all flocking to the PC, PS3, or 360. They are deciding because they are waiting for games that interest them, and price cuts.

BC is obviously not half as important as you are saying either because even though its a jice bonus, I have the 60GB model, I have no used the BC since I bought GOW2. Not everyone cares about BC and if they do they can buy a PS2. Sony has proven that BC isnt that important. How? well look at the sales. The PS3 is on route for 2nd place without it.

Your just like the rest of your entire generation. You think you know the world. Guess what YOU DONT. Let the people who understand the world better and will fix your generation's screw ups for our children run this world.


ssj12... I'm surprised you haven't been banned for this, and I'm very tempted to report your post. You have effectively turned an argument about video gaming consoles into a strong personal insult against a generation of people. You say Grampy doesn't speak for all PS2 owners... true enough. But do you now speak for the "current" generation when condemning all those who came before you?

Not cool.


Eh he's 21. People who are 21 tend to think there smarter then everyone else... right about until they get out of college.  Gotta have some leeway for peoples ages.  I mean look at all the second chances Leo-J got.



In 5 to 8 weeks Wii is going to pass 360 in NA, I wonder how the discussion will change then.



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.