By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Gaming Discussion - Grand Theft Auto 4: A Mirror of The United States

well ok, we can all join together and either vote obama(hard for me to say because im republican but it needs to be done!) or we can all join together and vote hilary. if we vote obama, obama wil lbe president. if we all vote hilary, im talking democratic pick here, it would be hilary vs mccain in the finals. in that case we would have another republican president that falls asleep alot but shit, better than hillary. ill say go obama.



Around the Network

As far as the Hillary Thing goes,The woman said she would obliterate iran, talk like that is the last thing we need. Every general not being paid to speak says the army is broken. her saying that is just s step in the wrong direction. Iran can do nothing to us that we could not do ten times over and they know that. We dominate the skies. I have a natural disrust of politicians at a national level, So Obama seems to good to be true. I just hope he is half of what we need him to be. McCain is just nutty and voted down a veterans benefit package



oh and i was going to say that those remarks in the game, in my opinion arent cuts agains the US but just some humour that some of us might get and some wont. the attention to detail in this game still just blows me away.



I don't see the game as anti american in its content more just trying to point out some of our faults.



didnt obama say that he wanted to do a 16 month pull out of iraq, but also that we will have to go back to afganistan within a few years because of all the shoe bombers gathering there?

digitalme, hillary doesnt know what she wants. she is just a flip flopping bitch. if i have my facts straight, didnt she vote for the iraqi war, then cut down bush repeatedly for the war and is now saying she wants to invade iran..... wouldnt invading iran be a bit worse than what bush did to iraq? if im on the right track here, how can the media make such a big deal on obamas pastor when flip flopper over there is saying things like this! please correct me if im wrong, im not a huge news nut!



Around the Network

You act like this is new for a GTA game. I seem to rememeber the other GTA games being similar.

Your character is a villian who is going to cause all sorts of trouble... as such the game designers are going to focus on the negatives of society...

why?

Most people are going to feel bad about carjacking grandma's and upstanding citizens.

By focusing on and enhancing the negatives of the US in Liberty City it's easier to think your victims deserve it. That's why in most games where you play a villain(or at best an anti-hero) your main antaganists are going to be villians.



For not knowing the news, you are pretty dead on. She did vote for the war and now tries to deny it, She is trying to make herself sound presidential by making empty threats. Obama has the luck of not being around when the biggest mistake in US history was made. Hillary pretends that she is different but has voted through many of the presidents policies even going against her own party. Hillary or McCain are for more war and threats. Obama I don't know for sure and right now that is good enough.



"Grand Theft Auto 4: A Mirror of The United States"

 

Must mean there is a secret Oil finding mission in the game, where you have to invade "other cities"



 

Kasz216 said:
You act like this is new for a GTA game. I seem to rememeber the other GTA games being similar.

Your character is a villian who is going to cause all sorts of trouble... as such the game designers are going to focus on the negatives of society...

why?

Most people are going to feel bad about carjacking grandma's and upstanding citizens.

By focusing on and enhancing the negatives of the US in Liberty City it's easier to think your victims deserve it. That's why in most games where you play a villain(or at best an anti-hero) your main antaganists are going to be villians.

 I agree with that reasoning, But I'm not acting like this is new. I did not have a place to post these thoughts when San Andreas came out. I do think if this country had food riots like other countries. Everything would be far worse than anything they can think up at rockstar



sailordude said:
didnt obama say that he wanted to do a 16 month pull out of iraq, but also that we will have to go back to afganistan within a few years because of all the shoe bombers gathering there?

digitalme, hillary doesnt know what she wants. she is just a flip flopping bitch. if i have my facts straight, didnt she vote for the iraqi war, then cut down bush repeatedly for the war and is now saying she wants to invade iran..... wouldnt invading iran be a bit worse than what bush did to iraq? if im on the right track here, how can the media make such a big deal on obamas pastor when flip flopper over there is saying things like this! please correct me if im wrong, im not a huge news nut!

 

Best I can tell

 Hilary's plan.  Pull out troops as fast as possible, but steadily, in hopes the pressure of us leaving will force Iraq to get their shit together because apparently having their own country isn't incentive enough.  Form an alliance with friendly middle eastern nations and make a Middle Eastern version of NATO vs Iran.  Leave Iraq to whatever happens no matter how horrible the consequences for iraq.

Also... she did say "Obliterate" knowing how the Clintons like to wage war that probably doesn't mean Invade.  It probably just means bomb all of their assets into the ground until they surrender. 

Obama's Plan.  Pull out troops as fast as possible, but steadily, in hopes the pressure of us leaving will force Iraq to get their shit together because apparently having their own country isn't incentive enough.  Keep a small task force in iraq to make strikes against any terrorist cells that remain in the country... however this force would not do peace keeping.  Use this same force to make strikes in countries like pakistan with or without approval. (or so he says, i don't think he has the balls to just send troops into the pakistan border though.  I don't see any presidential candidate doing that.)  May move back in if things like genocide happen in iraq.

 Mccain Plan.  Keep Troops in Iraq while looking for different ways to stabalize Iraq.  Start a League of Democracies similar to NATO.  This league leaving out countries like Russia and China will allow the democratic nations to push their agendas in ways made impossible by the UN do to the UN giving everyone a vote, even the people who are the problem in the first place.