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trestres said:
@BCNR34: Calling any system a toy in a despective manner, is in fact breaking a rule. No wonder why you got the banishments, read the rules next time.

would you like to point out to me when/where i called the wii a toy?

perhaps you should read the thread before you post, yes?



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Just ban anyone that posts anything that resembles trolling or flamebait. Don't give warnings, instead give a 1 day ban, because a warning lets someone troll without consequences. That's the easiest way to do it, and I've seen it work on other sites. Mods shouldn't have to walk on eggshells, posters should.



BCNR34 said:
trestres said:
@BCNR34: Calling any system a toy in a despective manner, is in fact breaking a rule. No wonder why you got the banishments, read the rules next time.

would you like to point out to me when/where i called the wii a toy?

perhaps you should read the thread before you post, yes?

You need glasses pal. I never said you called Wii a toy, I said you got banned cause you broke the rules, therefore:

1.You didnt read them.

2. You are a troll.

3.You cant read properly.

 



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BCNR34 said:
ioi said:
We have forum rules. Break a rule and a mod will deal with it. We have mod forums so decisions are generally discussed and a group decision made.

Moderating should be more consistent than ever on the site. If you have a specific issue, speak to DKII or myself about it.

except, this is the problem, all the current mods are involved in this console race in one way or another, so when person A calls the wii a toy for children, they may or may not get banned depending on the bias of the mod.


 You know the easiest solution is to just not be disrespectful right?  I'm not saying you do this, I'm just saying if a user doesn't want to get in trouble don't post stupid shit that they know will piss people off.

I'm not saying you can't think the Wii is toy, but if you go around calling the Wii two Gamecube's duct taped together, the 360 the RRoD machine, the PS3 a stand alone bluRay player you know you're only posting that to make people angry and be disrespectful.   If you don't do that kind of stupid stuff you have absolutely no reason to worry.

And also, we can't read every thread.  I've had people complain to me that someone got away with whatever in another thread countless times and they just couldn't believe it.  When I asked them if they ever reported that person they of course said no and that of course is the (or at least a) reason nothing has been done. 



As mods we're often accused by someone of not doing anything until we do something, at which point other people will claim we go overboard. But rarely does the same person accuse us of doing both at the same time.

Anyways, I have no idea what incident started this thread, but I'm inclined to think it's yet another case of our jobs being partially based on discretion. Different people "discrete" in different ways.



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trestres said:
BCNR34 said:
trestres said:
@BCNR34: Calling any system a toy in a despective manner, is in fact breaking a rule. No wonder why you got the banishments, read the rules next time.

would you like to point out to me when/where i called the wii a toy?

perhaps you should read the thread before you post, yes?

You need glasses pal. I never said you called Wii a toy, I said you got banned cause you broke the rules, therefore:

1.You didnt read them.

2. You are a troll.

3.You cant read properly.

 


 so, because you originally thought I got banned for calling the wii a toy because i used that as an example in my post, and then i said that i didn't get banned for calling the wii a toy and then you looked through my post history and indeed saw that i didn't get banned for calling the wii a toy, this is what you came up with?



vaio said:
carlos710 said:
radioioRobert said:

You know, I had a joke thread that got locked down. I based it off the infamous Leo-J "greatest preditcion thread ever", the End of The Wii. I called it the End of the PS3 and copied his thread almost exactly (bad spelling of prediction included), just switched out Wii for PS3 and vice versa. I also switched game titles as well.

What I didn't understand was, Why would you lock down a thread that was obviously a sarcastic play on a fanboy rant, but leave the original open (it's still open now)?

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=0&id=24862 Leo J original

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=50&id=24871 Joke Thread

Of course, after permaban you have to read leo-j's original post in a quoted reply since all his posts have been removed.

Both were started on 4/24, the original is still open, the joke 'answer' thread got locked down in less than 12 hours, with no note from a mod, no pm, and no explanation.

I'd love to understand why stuff like this happens.....

I think the Wii Bingo thread would be locked by today's mod standards.


Indeed, i think the only problem with moderation on this site is that they usually allow Sony fanboys to troll while they don't give the same kind of freedom to Wii/360 owners... i think the mods should come hard at everyone who gets into personal attacks, like most ps3 fans on this site do.

 

 

 


I´ve noticed this also and it´s annoying as hell especialy when Sony fanboys scream that Ninty fanboys are getting away with the same thing when it´s actually themselves that get away with it far more then Ninty fanboys. I also noticed that when Nintendo fan´s get longer bans while Sony fans MOSTLY get a day or two.


 umm... Leo just got perma-banned...



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To be honest, the only problem I've had with moderation on this site is how it can sometimes be. For example, Leo publicly admitted dodging his extremely deserved 2 month bad, and claimed his "completely reformed" conduct proves how he should be a mod. Nobody raised a finger.

Dodgy or missing ban reasons aren't nice, but that's not exactly a huge issue, and easily fixable if there are enough complaints.



while some bans seems very harsh, they are supported by the rules, so quick solution... read the rules, long term solution think before posting nonsense or offensive contents.



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 You know the easiest solution is to just not be disrespectful right?  I'm not saying you do this, I'm just saying if a user doesn't want to get in trouble don't post stupid shit that they know will piss people off.

I'm not saying you can't think the Wii is toy, but if you go around calling the Wii two Gamecube's duct taped together, the 360 the RRoD machine, the PS3 a stand alone bluRay player you know you're only posting that to make people angry and be disrespectful.   If you don't do that kind of stupid stuff you have absolutely no reason to worry.

And also, we can't read every thread.  I've had people complain to me that someone got away with whatever in another thread countless times and they just couldn't believe it.  When I asked them if they ever reported that person they of course said no and that of course is the (or at least a) reason nothing has been done. 


So if someone were to make a thread bashing a console manufacturer and then say they deserve to go out of buisness and imply that the continued existence of the console harms the game industry the thread would be locked right? Cause unless something changed one of those exists right now, with mod posts in it, and with at least one person reporting it. I have never seen a more blatant attack on a console without merit than in the original post of that thread and nothing was done last I checked.

I want to clarify I really like you as a mod. I enjoy seeing you post in threads because it reassures me that trolling will be kept to a minimum. Sometimes I have to question other mods decisions though. I don't have any specific complaints outside the fact that ssj12's sig is annoyingly long, but there is a lot of inconsistency. The specific example really riles me up because it wasn't even a stealth troll but a blatant troll topic.



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