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my advice to you is to read it again and all it is is a whole bunch of people repeating the same stuff that has been repeated over and over and over again, what happened to constructive discussions about real things that effecting the game industry.

thats what im talking about, just because some one has 1000+ posts doesnt mean they are the end all of gaming. Im comparing wasted discussions of people going over and over proven and known facts just to prove the noobish ideas wrong.



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Thank you for the comprehensive definition totalwar23.



It seems like the userbase has doubled in the last six months. Not any scientific analysis or anything, just going by my fallible memory of how many people I used to see signed in versus what it is now. Things like "Wii Bingo" are old hat references that a lot of people don't even mention anymore because it's just an old joke.

There's a lot of new users that post "Wii Bingo" topics and don't realize how funny they are, on a subject that's been beaten to death and that have been definitively explicated by naznatips, sqrl, shams, the_source, happysquirrel, bodhesatva, and other luminaries who make posts motivated by rational arguments and actually use historical data to back up their assertions.

It almost motivates me to put together a FAQ based on different threads. I would probably start with the NINTENDOMINATION thread. But it would be too much to expect new users to slog through a few thousand posts to educate themselves.

For the time being there's not much to do except ignore the silly posts/threads or go through the old arguments again. It's going to get worse. There's a lot of reasonable criticism that has been aimed at GAF and the way it's run (because of that NYT article) but if you take into account how huge GAF's userbase is some of the policies seem more reasonable. I'm sure as the userbase for VGChartz grows the procedures will tighten (as they have already). IMHO the challenge will be to make VGC more tolerant than GAF. I blame Wii Fit.



So wait. Do you want us to get rid of all relatively new posters like you? or just the ones that spew senseless babbling like yours?





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fkusumot said:
It seems like the userbase has doubled in the last six months. Not any scientific analysis or anything, just going by my fallible memory of how many people I used to see signed in versus what it is now. Things like "Wii Bingo" are old hat references that a lot of people don't even mention anymore because it's just an old joke.

There's a lot of new users that post "Wii Bingo" topics and don't realize how funny they are, on a subject that's been beaten to death and that have been definitively explicated by naznatips, sqrl, shams, the_source, happysquirrel, bodhesatva, and other luminaries who make posts motivated by rational arguments and actually use historical data to back up their assertions.

It almost motivates me to put together a FAQ based on different threads. I would probably start with the NINTENDOMINATION thread. But it would be too much to expect new users to slog through a few thousand posts to educate themselves.

For the time being there's not much to do except ignore the silly posts/threads or go through the old arguments again. It's going to get worse. There's a lot of reasonable criticism that has been aimed at GAF and the way it's run (because of that NYT article) but if you take into account how huge GAF's userbase is some of the policies seem more reasonable. I'm sure as the userbase for VGChartz grows the procedures will tighten (as they have already). IMHO the challenge will be to make VGC more tolerant than GAF. I blame Wii Fit.

I think a FAQ for new members would be a briliant idea. Just giving an idea of what threads and or baseless opinions have been given ou and done to death already, so hopefully all posters would have a base of where to start the conversation from. Of course, no one ever reads FAQs of that type, and some of the oldest posters are the most extreme flamers/trollers/purveyers-of-false-information-and/or-hope on the site, but you can hope it'll do some good.

I for one would love to see an end to all "Wii will Phail" posts as well as an end to "PS360 sux" posts. Can't we all
just appreciate games as a whole and not color everything by what console manufacturer we have inexplicably personally decided to like and which we have decided to dislike? Why does everything have to be a juvinile kill or be killed mentality? Why can't both MGS4 and Wii Fit be games we enjoy and see as adding to the overall gaming environment? Doesn't anyone realize how such a mentality is an indication of stunted emotional growth?

But there I go, tilting at windmills...



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TheUltimateLife said:
The n00b domination is at full force

their a waste of forum space! There should be an option where if a certain amount of people vote a thread has no reliable factual bases and trolls for people to repeat the some old dumb arguments, then a mod will check it out and if it's junk it should be deleted. At least then the people who know and want to discus the industry don’t have to keep correcting the n00bs who know jack about anything.
 enough of the try hards, your like,  "I know so much about the industry that I can stand up and forecast the wii to fail and people need to take me seriously cos I’m such an expert!" 

the people who know and care about gaming shouldn’t have to scramble through n00b vomit just to find a few paragraphs of valuable information

Who agrees that too many n00bs speak their mind and end up dribbling out video gaming vomit? I'm tired of seeing smart people having to waste their time cleaning up after their FAILED forum attempts when there could be more valuable conversations going on.

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=24756 this is the stupid post followed by a massive clean up crew that has made me want to say something about this issue.


we can start with this thread!

 

you had to have seen that coming.



I would argue mass banning policies are largely ineffective, and usually antagonize many in the noob community. They do tend to move in packs, and the do seem to communicate with internet pheromones. So when you swat one down the group becomes agitated. Smack five or six down they go into a killing frenzy, and they send out support lines to other colonies. So simply forum maintenance on a forum with no real protection results in constant attacks from mass account creation.

I would agree there is a problem. I am not sure it requires drastic action. I have always been a strong advocate for deferred membership. Locking new accounts for a period of time no less then a week. That would form a protective barrier against spammers, and block those with poor impulse control from joining as we have seen clearly illustrated with the original poster which would have been blocked were that the case.



hehe im a newb lol that would be so unfair giving me like a 1 week restriction be4 i can start posting :(



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okay i like that thread and you seem to be a bit angry right now...so i will make you day all better

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