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Can't say much excites me here.

Bioshock, X-Com and Borderlands are great franchises in their own right, but I already own them elsewhere for years and with higher levels of visual fidelity.

Xenoblades Chronicles is an old game... Would have been nice to see a "collection" which included Xenoblade Chronicles, Xenoblade Chronicles X, Xenoblade Chronicles 2 + Torna - The Golden Country... That would truly be a "Definitive Edition".

They are probably the most interesting games of the bunch to me though.



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So... nobody is gonna talk about how shitty the american Xenoblade Collector's Edition is compared to the european and japanese ones?

Europe:

- The game

- A Steelbook

- A Poster

- Soundtrack in a beautiful vinyl

- Digital soundtrack

- An artbook

Japan:

- The game

- A Steelbook

- CD Soundtrack

- An artbook

America:

- The game

- An artbook



Vodacixi said:

So... nobody is gonna talk about how shitty the american Xenoblade Collector's Edition is compared to the european and japanese ones?

Europe:

- The game

- A Steelbook

- A Poster

- Soundtrack in a beautiful vinyl

- Digital soundtrack

- An artbook

Japan:

- The game

- A Steelbook

- CD Soundtrack

- An artbook

America:

- The game

- An artbook

Yeah, the difference is staggering. Generally americans are on the bad end regarding XC. The original game didn't came out in the US for a long time, although it was localized and released in europe already and when it eventually came it was strongly limited. This worse collectors edition seems like a lighter version of that. Although I am interested, how that influences prices.



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I have the CE of the other games. Plus the US and Pal versions of the Wii game. I also have the full OST of the series on CD. Plus art books and Monando Archives. This time I am just getting ths standard edition.



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Vodacixi said:

But stop saying these things in public, because there are people that may think you are correct. 

Yeah, like everyone but you. And nobody thinks like you do. Like some experts:

https://www.polygon.com/2019/9/4/20850169/xenoblade-chronicles-definitive-edition-remake-nintendo-switch-direct

But yeah, kudos for trying once again. But no.

You can write an e-mail to Digital Foundry/Eurogamer or Polygon explainin them how wrong they are if you want to.



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SKMBlake said:
Vodacixi said:

But stop saying these things in public, because there are people that may think you are correct. 

Yeah, like everyone but you. And nobody thinks like you do. Like some experts:

https://www.polygon.com/2019/9/4/20850169/xenoblade-chronicles-definitive-edition-remake-nintendo-switch-direct

But yeah, kudos for trying once again. But no.

You can write an e-mail to Digital Foundry/Eurogamer or Polygon explainin them how wrong they are if you want to.

So... Digital Foundry knows better than the actual creators of the game... what their game is? Wow, that's... something, I guess.

You and many people (including Digital Foundry) are using wrong words to reffer to a remaster. That's pretty much what's going on here. It's understandable, because people see fancy graphics and inmmediatly think "remake". But that's not how it works. I explained to you countless of times. You haven't been able to counter any of my statements. You just keep saying "you are wrong" like parrot without doing any significant contribution to your point of view. You have NOTHING on this. So, stop wasting everyone's time and learn to talk properly already. Jesus...



Vodacixi said:

You haven't been able to counter any of my statements. 

Several people and I proved you wrong on everything you said couples of times. Every definition, examples and so were proven wrong point after point. But if you still wanna think you're right, I don't mind, we're on the internet after all, that's basically how it works here.



SKMBlake said:
Vodacixi said:

You haven't been able to counter any of my statements. 

Several people and I proved you wrong on everything you said couples of times. Every definition, examples and so were proven wrong point after point. But if you still wanna think you're right, I don't mind, we're on the internet after all, that's basically how it works here.

Oh, really? When did that happen?

Was it when you guys called a game remake despite being called remaster in the box art? Was it when I brought to you the case of Kingdom Hearts HD were it had be pretty much recreated again but it is clearly a remaster, but you just decided to ignore it? Or was it when you guys said FF VII Remakes was not a remake (lol)? Oh, wait, maybe it was that time you guys tried to justify Xenoblade DE being a remaster by bringing up a comparison video where it was clear as day that it was the same core skeleton, with the same shots, the same movement for the characters, the same FUCKING EVERYTHING... but with better textures and lightning? Wait, wait, wait... I have this one... It had to be that time I wrote for you definitions for remastering, remaking and rebooting with examples and you guys IGNORE IT AGAIN BECAUSE YOU HAD NOTHING ON IT.

Which one was it, Blake? Get real, the only time you or anyone on this thread proved me wrong on this specific topic was in your dreams. So keep dreaming if it makes you happy. But Xenoblade Chronicles Definitive Edition will still be a port of the original Wii game where they changed the original textures for prettier ones and gave everything a better lightning. They did not open a game engine and started an entirely new project. The took Xenoblade (Wii) and proceed to remove and add things. End of the story.



Vodacixi said:
SKMBlake said:

Yeah, like everyone but you. And nobody thinks like you do. Like some experts:

https://www.polygon.com/2019/9/4/20850169/xenoblade-chronicles-definitive-edition-remake-nintendo-switch-direct

But yeah, kudos for trying once again. But no.

You can write an e-mail to Digital Foundry/Eurogamer or Polygon explainin them how wrong they are if you want to.

So... Digital Foundry knows better than the actual creators of the game... what their game is? Wow, that's... something, I guess.

You and many people (including Digital Foundry) are using wrong words to reffer to a remaster. That's pretty much what's going on here. It's understandable, because people see fancy graphics and inmmediatly think "remake". But that's not how it works. I explained to you countless of times. You haven't been able to counter any of my statements. You just keep saying "you are wrong" like parrot without doing any significant contribution to your point of view. You have NOTHING on this. So, stop wasting everyone's time and learn to talk properly already. Jesus...

If Xenoblade DE is remaster only, Nintendo would have called it Xenoblade HD. Rememeber Wind Waker HD and Twilight Princess HD?



Vodacixi said:
SKMBlake said:

Yeah, like everyone but you. And nobody thinks like you do. Like some experts:

https://www.polygon.com/2019/9/4/20850169/xenoblade-chronicles-definitive-edition-remake-nintendo-switch-direct

But yeah, kudos for trying once again. But no.

You can write an e-mail to Digital Foundry/Eurogamer or Polygon explainin them how wrong they are if you want to.

So... Digital Foundry knows better than the actual creators of the game... what their game is? Wow, that's... something, I guess.

You and many people (including Digital Foundry) are using wrong words to reffer to a remaster. That's pretty much what's going on here. It's understandable, because people see fancy graphics and inmmediatly think "remake". But that's not how it works. I explained to you countless of times. You haven't been able to counter any of my statements. You just keep saying "you are wrong" like parrot without doing any significant contribution to your point of view. You have NOTHING on this. So, stop wasting everyone's time and learn to talk properly already. Jesus...

He has already answered you. It's a marketing move. Crash fans would have badly overreacted if the game was called Crash Bandicoot Trilogy Remake, because "Oh no they're ruining my favourite game!". By calling it a remaster people would have understood that the game was not ruining the original one. But this is something that has already been written, you have basically just ignored it and prentended he has no arguments. Let's talk about Panzer Dragoon Remake: it should be easy for you to look on youtube and see original game walkthrough/gameplay, then look at the "remake" footage, developer called it a Remake but it's clearly not. Now let me say something: FFVII is a Remake but in a different way than Xenoblade Chronicles Defintive Edition is or Crash Bandicoot N.Sane Trilogy, Crash Team Racing Nitro Fueled or Spyro Reignited Trilogy. I'd like to call those game as "1:1 Remake" to separate remakes like FFVII Remake or RE2/RE3 Remake from those remakes that are made from scratch but they're basically the same as the original ones



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