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Cerebralbore101 said:
DélioPT said:

Ok, let's forget reused codes and whatnot.

MK8 and Zelda are ports.
Doesn't matter if Zelda released at the same time on both systems - we don't even know if the Switch version delayed the release of the Wii U game. It probably did.
Zelda Switch was an afterthought. Had the game been built exclusively for it, it wouldn't have released in 2017.

So, ignoring, remakes and reused assets, the difference between Wii U and Switch is just too small.

How games were reviewed is irrelevant do this specific discussion,  i'm sorry. This thread and discussion is about what and how many games Nintendo is bringing to the market.

I get that you love the game and it also happens to be the best selling 3rdparty game. But we are talking about Nintendo games, not 3rd party games. If we extend this conversation to 3rd party games, then… there's no really sense for this conversation.

I don't know who develops Kirby, but besides that, not a single game you mentioned was developed by Nintendo's internal teams,as far as i know.
And that is exactly the problem: they stopped using their own teams to support Switch, but the problem is, in terms of numbers, you just don't see a big change going from having 2 platforms, to just having one.

"I don't care whether it's Nintendo's own studios"

But this is what i was talking about in the first place; This IS about Nintendo's own studios - and how Nintendo has been managing them.

Look, i get it that all you want is the games, but if we are talking about how Nintendo has or hasn't changed, we need to look at what they are doing.

When people complain that a game is a port, what they are really saying is "that game is old, so I don't care about it". For example: Tropical Freeze, and Bayo 2 haven't been talked about much because they were ports of old games. But BotW wasn't an old game at all when it released on Switch. So that whole line of complaining that "it's just a port" loses meaning, for BotW. 

Yeah, technically it's a port, or a simultaneous release. Either way it's a new game that can only be played on a Nintendo system (barring piracy). 

So, ignoring, remakes and reused assets, the difference between Wii U and Switch is just too small.

Sure, if we are only counting games made directly by Nintendo the difference is very small. It's basically Arms, Splatoon 2, BotW, Xenoblade 2, 1/2 Switch, and Odyssey vs NSMBU, Nintendo Land, Pikmin 3, 3D World, and Windwaker HD. I don't agree on only counting games made directly by Nintendo, but I see your point. 

  i'm sorry. This thread and discussion is about what and how many games Nintendo is bringing to the market.

Is it about how many games Nintendo brought to market, or how many games Nintendo developed themselves and then brought to market? Looking back at the OP it seems to be about how many games Nintendo has announced for 2020, after Animal Crossing's release. Pretty sure OP had no intention of excluding exclusive Switch games just because they were being developed by an outside studio. So games like Poke'mon, or Luigi's Mansion wouldn't have been excluded by OP right? 

@NightlyPoe Right?

How games were reviewed is irrelevant do this specific discussion

I think it's pretty relevant. After all, isn't this a thread about lack of hype, because Nintendo hasn't slated enough games post AC, and held a direct about it? If Nintendo churned out a bunch of games scoring in the 60's, for almost an entire year, you'd better believe that I and several other people on this site would be beyond livid.

I mean, do you really think this thread would have magically gone away, if Nintendo had announced 10 new (but horrible looking) games for 2020?

The game was ported from Wii U to Switch.
Again, had the game been built from the ground up for Switch and it wouldn't have been released in 2017.

Thankfully for Nintendo, a lot of the work was already done!

I personally read the thread as Nintendo's own games being brought to the market.
To me that's what's most important. That's why i mentioned before how they went from supporting 2 devices, to just 1.

If we could other games paid by Nintendo, games by studios that just support Nintendo, then things would be different, yeah. How much? Don't know.

I said that this isn't about reviews, because it really isn't.
Be it Nintendo's own games or not, this is about what games are coming - or not!

You and everyone would complain about Nintendo losing quality but that's a different discussion: quality in games, or few games, wouldn't erase the fact that it's still few games.
What people are complaining about is, for now, lack of support, not quality support.



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People are never satisfied. New only lasts so long. It's always "What's next?"



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NightlyPoe said:
Signalstar said:
People are never satisfied. New only lasts so long. It's always "What's next?"

I mean, I do want to know what's next.  It's been awhile since Nintendo's dropped a must-own for me.  In my specific case, since Three Houses almost a year ago.

Im kind of in the same boat. Pretty disappointed w the library. Must owns are zelda,  odyssey (& im not a 3d mario fan), and smash. There have been other games that ve been fun like luigis mansion and rabbids, but in hindaight, I shouldve been playing uncharted or horizon. Losing metroid on the calendar really hurt. Hope nmh3 at least comes out this year. Im dreading the mario Remaster announements.  Thats a big notging burger for me. Maybe aunshine will be xool I suppose. Wish the 2 64 zeldas got remade w new assets instead. Their the ugliest zeldas and they havent come to tvs since that era. Or hell if im making wishes now, a AAA 3ps starfox game.  



This kund of reminds me of the operation rainfall days on the wii. Got 3 titles to look forward to at a drips pace.



Has there ever been a successful system with a worse 4th year than this, in terms of games?

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mZuzek said:
NightlyPoe said:

Eh, we still need to wait to make that judgement.  The first 7 months haven't been that bad, even if they haven't been exciting.  Just two more solid (non-port) games and the year will be in the mediocre range.

Granted, they may not manage to clear that low bar.

They probably won't, honestly, but I think it's unfair to make criticisms about it. We've all been here, we all know this year was nothing like anything ever before. It's not reasonable to expect game development to have continued as normal, or at least that's my take on it.

For all I care, anything that ever had an announced release date (or timeframe) of 2020 or further, I just add one more year to it. If something I was anticipating comes out sooner than that one-year delay I'm assuming it'll have, it's a bonus and I can be happy with it, but I'm really not creating any expectations over that sort of thing.

Well I'm fairly confident at the very least Bravely Default II will be a 2020 release. They still advertised it as such and put out a demo for feedback, so I'm confident that should be ready. But I'm starting to think No More Heroes 3 may not make it.

On the Nintendo side, I still have to think they'll make sure they have at least one notable release for the holidays. The reason they're probably waiting to the last possible moment to show it, is because they likely still don't know just what they can feasibly push out in time. So they'll wait as long as they can before announcing anything.

While the long periods of silence are frustrating, and the bad timing of this Mini Direct didn't help, I'm still keeping in perspective that it's July and it's just been that kind of turbulent year for everything.



SpokenTruth said:
curl-6 said:

Has there ever been a successful system with a worse 4th year than this, in terms of games?

Has there ever been a successful system with a global pandemic in its 4th year?

Wasn't the Wii in or around its 4th year during the H1N1 pandemic? (I know that wasn't as severe, but a pandemic nonetheless)



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I think it's likely that they have some big guns ready, or nearly ready, for the holidays but are waiting to see what Sony and Microsoft are planning.

Imagine botw 2 coming out this holiday to compete with the new consoles in terms of media coverage/public visibility.

This could be wishful thinking on my part, but I also think it would be a good strategy to take some of Sony and Microsoft's thunder.



I like it when my mom goes out of town because I get to sleep on her side of the bed. -William Montgomery

2020 really feels like a Wii U year for Nintendo. Maybe a little better. Hopefully that changes soon.



I do think there are plenty more games coming this year, but I gotta admit that Nintendo has been too tight lipped at this point.  At the very least they should have said, "another mini Direct featuring our first party games will be released on X date."