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Is normie an insult

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JWeinCom on 15 February 2020
Jaicee said:
Metroid33slayer said:

IMO it's the sheep that believe the pay gap is because of discrimination, if women want equal outcome then they have to work the same hours in the same industries but of course that's hard work and the feminists want equal outcome for less work in less demanding jobs. 

Women work more hours than men do. They just don't get paid for all of them. Women do the vast majority of the world's unpaid (and, as we see above plainly, unappreciated) work.

Perhaps if men chose to participate equally in domestic chores (and employers couldn't legally use maternity leave time as an excuse to cut off pay for long periods in this country), things would be different. Perhaps under such circumstances, a larger number of women would feel at liberty to pursue careers in a more dedicated way. Either that or the state should start paying women for domestic work since they do more than two-thirds of it even in developed countries.

Also, why do so many threads have to feature a debate about the supposed evils of women and feminism even when it clearly has nothing to do with the subject at hand?

Because normies love to feed the trolls.



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Jaicee on 16 February 2020
JWeinCom said:
Jaicee said:

It's basically the millennial way of calling somebody a conformist, which, yeah, I think qualifies an an insult. It's also something I've never been called for some odd reason.

Quiet normie.

Normal!!

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Metroid33slayer on 16 February 2020
Jaicee said:
Metroid33slayer said:

IMO it's the sheep that believe the pay gap is because of discrimination, if women want equal outcome then they have to work the same hours in the same industries but of course that's hard work and the feminists want equal outcome for less work in less demanding jobs. 

Women work more hours than men do. They just don't get paid for all of them. Women do the vast majority of the world's unpaid (and, as we see above plainly, unappreciated) work.

Perhaps if men chose to participate equally in domestic chores (and employers couldn't legally use maternity leave time as an excuse to cut off pay for long periods in this country), things would be different. Perhaps under such circumstances, a larger number of women would feel at liberty to pursue careers in a more dedicated way. Either that or the state should start paying women for domestic work since they do more than two-thirds of it even in developed countries.

Also, why do so many threads have to feature a debate about the supposed evils of women and feminism even when it clearly has nothing to do with the subject at hand?

In all western countries government statistics have men  working between 3.5 to 6 hours a week more on average and retiring far later as well and the work that men do is more demanding and essential on top of that. Women working more is BS, that is because feminist consider women looking after children as work, so they consider a stay at home single mom as working 24 hours a day. And of course women should do more chores, the man is working more and bringing more money to the relationship so she should be making up the difference in some way. And women do get payed for their domestic work by their partner, they get to live in his house rent free, pay no bills, use his car, eat food payed by him, spend his money on clothes, trips, electronics and entertainment etc. The working man with a stay at home partner barely gets a penny to spend on himself. The entitlement of women is breathtaking even when they have a financial slave providing for them they still complain.

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Jaicee on 16 February 2020
Metroid33slayer said:

In all western countries government statistics have men  working between 3.5 to 6 hours a week more on average and retiring far later as well and the work that men do is more demanding and essential on top of that. Women working more is BS, that is because feminist consider women looking after children as work, so they consider a stay at home single mom as working 24 hours a day. And of course women should do more chores, the man is working more and bringing more money to the relationship so should be making up the difference in some way. And women do get payed for their domestic work by their partner, they get to live in his house rent free, pay no bills, use his car, eat food payed by him, spend his money on clothes, trips, electronics and entertainment etc. The working man with a stay at home partner barely gets a penny to spend on himself. The entitlement of women is breathtaking even when they have a financial slave providing for them they still complain.

Wow. There is indeed something breathtaking here, but it's not the attitude of Jane Average Female American.

I don't even know how to respond to this except to say that I feel sorry for any woman who may have had the misfortune of being your partner.

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pikashoe on 16 February 2020
Metroid33slayer said:
Jaicee said:

Women work more hours than men do. They just don't get paid for all of them. Women do the vast majority of the world's unpaid (and, as we see above plainly, unappreciated) work.

Perhaps if men chose to participate equally in domestic chores (and employers couldn't legally use maternity leave time as an excuse to cut off pay for long periods in this country), things would be different. Perhaps under such circumstances, a larger number of women would feel at liberty to pursue careers in a more dedicated way. Either that or the state should start paying women for domestic work since they do more than two-thirds of it even in developed countries.

Also, why do so many threads have to feature a debate about the supposed evils of women and feminism even when it clearly has nothing to do with the subject at hand?

In all western countries government statistics have men  working between 3.5 to 6 hours a week more on average and retiring far later as well and the work that men do is more demanding and essential on top of that. Women working more is BS, that is because feminist consider women looking after children as work, so they consider a stay at home single mom as working 24 hours a day. And of course women should do more chores, the man is working more and bringing more money to the relationship so she should be making up the difference in some way. And women do get payed for their domestic work by their partner, they get to live in his house rent free, pay no bills, use his car, eat food payed by him, spend his money on clothes, trips, electronics and entertainment etc. The working man with a stay at home partner barely gets a penny to spend on himself. The entitlement of women is breathtaking even when they have a financial slave providing for them they still complain.

Off topic, please STOP. If you want to talk about this message eachother. This thread has nothing to do with what you are talking about.



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HylianSwordsman on 16 February 2020

By default it is. That's how it's intended. Saying "normie" isn't an insult because some normal people are happy to be normal is like saying "racist" isn't an insult because some racists are proud to be racist.

That said, anyone who thinks calling someone a normie is the same as calling them normal doesn't understand the term. The way I see the term get used, it tends to mean a couple of things, but actually calling the person normal isn't one of them. On the one hand it's used to apply an outsider status to someone, to exclude them from an insider group that is in the know. The insult here is "you don't belong with us, you belong with the boring, nameless masses" and effectively calls the person uncool. The other way it's used is even more insulting, suggesting character flaws in the person's mode of thinking. "Normie" connotatively suggests that the person it names does not think for themselves, mindlessly following trends, lacks a unique personality, only liking things because they're popular rather than because of the merits of those popular things. It also suggests a lack of sophistication with modern internet culture, an inability to comprehend the humor and cultural trends of the digital age. In this case it calls the person stupid, boring, easily manipulated, and uncultured swine. It's similar in that way to "basic" or "basic bitch" but can be applied to a wider group of people and is used more by internet culture.



ironmanDX on 16 February 2020

It can be used as one. In the context of the article, yes it was.

Perhaps it's why the person who used it then proceed to become rather defensive after I shifted goal posts as a joke to indicate they might be one.

I felt as though it read like a joke but perhaps they misunderstood. Either way, their reaction indicated their interpretation of the word.

If someone were to call me one... Hmm... Depending on who you are and where it's done, I'd say I'd either be very slightly bothered or not bothered at all.



ArchangelMadzz on 16 February 2020

It's most definitely used as an insult.

It's majority of the context I've seen are from people who were lower on the social ladder and try to get revenge feeling superior about knowing about subjects/jokes etc that other people don't.



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SquirrelWhisperer on 16 February 2020
o_O.Q said:
Yes, its an insult for people who think there's any value in the status quo, used often by progressives who think society needs to be radically altered because there's not sufficient equality of outcome between people

For example, someone who believes women get paid 77 cents on every dollar a man earns may call someone who does not believe this a "normie", since from that first person's perspective, the latter's ignorance is holding society back from a state where women will be paid 100 cents to every dollar a man earns.

i work in a field basically devoid of women, because they just can't handle the work. women can get the same pay when the can lift the same load. if a woman can only lift 77 pounds for every mans 100 why should we be paid the same? equality isn't equality unless our metrics are the same. whats actually ignorant is to assume all work is worth the same amount based on gender instead of performance. thats just downright stupid. anyways, feel free to dogpile on me for being "misogynistic" since im quite certain none of you feel the same



sales2099 on 16 February 2020
o_O.Q said:
Yes, its an insult for people who think there's any value in the status quo, used often by progressives who think society needs to be radically altered because there's not sufficient equality of outcome between people

For example, someone who believes women get paid 77 cents on every dollar a man earns may call someone who does not believe this a "normie", since from that first person's perspective, the latter's ignorance is holding society back from a state where women will be paid 100 cents to every dollar a man earns.

Can you elaborate on how this can take place in the workplace? 

I find it hard to believe a company posts a job and offers less salary to a woman as opposed to a man. Usually when a job is created the wage/salary is predetermined before the hiring process. 

My understanding is that the wage gap is an average over time, which is due to women taking more time off work then men. Usually due to maternity leave, which is a totally normal reason to be away from work. The fathers tend to keep working because after all you need income flowing in constantly to keep the growing family going. 



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