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Forums - Gaming Discussion - Ocarina of Time vs Final Fantasy 7

 

I prefer...

Ocarina of Time 105 58.33%
 
Final Fantasy 7 75 41.67%
 
Total:180

deskpro2k3 said:
multiple spin-offs, films and anime

Ocarina of Time got two direct sequels that are considered masterpieces and a very good manga. Also a 3DS remaster. But I don't think that tells us anything about how good Ocarina of Time is. It just proves that is a somewhat popular game xD



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deskpro2k3 said:
Best Story, best music, multiple spin-offs, films and anime. The opening intro in the original still holds up on it's own today.

FF7 wins in these categories. Now we'll REALLY get to see it for real in the Remake. Nope can't change my mind, don't even try.

I do like how far the Japanese companies have been going with their remakes/reimaginings of old classics. It all looks amazingly well done. I hope Nintendo goes all out like those for Ocarina of Time some day.



Loneken said:
FFVII is one of my favorites games and the second best FF (VI is)
But Ocarine of time is a better game : The 3d world exploration, controls (Z targeting),etc.
This game set the base to all 3d action adventure games. FF VII is a Jrpg from snes era with better grafics and cgi cinematics. The game is fantastic, but dont evolve the FF formula in gameplay, only in presentation.
In the graphic section oot is more cohesive as a world, ff7 is more disparate between battle and world. Even CGI sequences are different from each other, going from realistic to chibi characters.

Sorry for my bad english.

Agreed. FFVII Played literally like FFVI. The Materia system being a different system for character progression, but it basically played like every other Traditonal RPG before it. It was bigger, more cinematic and had a richer story...( But incredibly rushed disc 3). So even in its undeniable greatness, there were glaring flaws...Ocarina in 1998 was perfection realized in a video game. To be fair, FFIX was the more polished experience (in comparison to VII).



deskpro2k3 said:
Best Story, best music, multiple spin-offs, films and anime. The opening intro in the original still holds up on it's own today.

FF7 wins in these categories. Now we'll REALLY get to see it for real in the Remake. Nope can't change my mind, don't even try.

And it is still losing the poll...the Spin offs and the films are irrelevant to the greatness of the actual game. I agree the story and music are better than OoTs but that's about the only things that have a good argument. To be fair, FFVII is the one RPG that really kick started the Fan Faction boom of the late 90s, not game before it or since has drawn as many players to its story and characters, but as game Ocarina was the superior piece of software. There is no shame in that,  it still holds the Metacritic record (OoT), no other game has beaten it either.



deskpro2k3 said:
Best Story, best music, multiple spin-offs, films and anime. The opening intro in the original still holds up on it's own today.

FF7 wins in these categories. Now we'll REALLY get to see it for real in the Remake. Nope can't change my mind, don't even try.



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SammyGiireal said:
deskpro2k3 said:
Best Story, best music, multiple spin-offs, films and anime. The opening intro in the original still holds up on it's own today.

FF7 wins in these categories. Now we'll REALLY get to see it for real in the Remake. Nope can't change my mind, don't even try.

And it is still losing the poll...the Spin offs and the films are irrelevant to the greatness of the actual game. I agree the story and music are better than OoTs but that's about the only things that have a good argument. To be fair, FFVII is the one RPG that really kick started the Fan Faction boom of the late 90s, not game before it or since has drawn as many players to its story and characters, but as game Ocarina was the superior piece of software. There is no shame in that,  it still holds the Metacritic record (OoT), no other game has beaten it either.

This poll is one sided because the forum is comprised of mostly Nintendo fans. I know, I been here for a very long time, and nothing is wrong with their opinion. But to say the spin offs and films is irrelevant is a poor excuse because again, you can't compete with story that expands beyond the game.

EDIT:

The story and music is the only good thing about FFVII?

Man... FFVII even have RTS.

Snowboarding.

A fighting game

Submarine mini game

motorbike mini game

And even an FPS game..

edit again: if we have a more comprehensive way to rank each element of both these games in terms of story, music, and fun factor, I think it'll be more interesting. 

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deskpro2k3 said:
SammyGiireal said:

And it is still losing the poll...the Spin offs and the films are irrelevant to the greatness of the actual game. I agree the story and music are better than OoTs but that's about the only things that have a good argument. To be fair, FFVII is the one RPG that really kick started the Fan Faction boom of the late 90s, not game before it or since has drawn as many players to its story and characters, but as game Ocarina was the superior piece of software. There is no shame in that,  it still holds the Metacritic record (OoT), no other game has beaten it either.

This poll is one sided because the forum is comprised of mostly Nintendo fans. I know, I been here for a very long time, and nothing is wrong with their opinion. But to say the spin offs and films is irrelevant is a poor excuse because again, you can't compete with story that expands beyond the game.

Then we should add Wind Waker and Majora's Mask to the conversation. And trust me, that doesn't favour FF VII at all. There is no amount of PSP spin offs or mediocre CGI movies that can compete with three masterpieces of gaming. Especially when we are talking about... well, games.

Not that this hipothetical situation matters, because we are comparing two particular games right here: PS1's clasic FF VII, launched in 1997 and N64's classic TLoZ: Ocarina of Time, launched in 1998. Everything else doesn't matter at all. Movies, remasters, sequels, spin offs... that is irrelevant. If you need external material to get the full experience of a game in order to beat another single game... then maybe your game is flawed to begin with, because it fails to complete itself.



Vodacixi said:
deskpro2k3 said:

This poll is one sided because the forum is comprised of mostly Nintendo fans. I know, I been here for a very long time, and nothing is wrong with their opinion. But to say the spin offs and films is irrelevant is a poor excuse because again, you can't compete with story that expands beyond the game.

Then we should add Wind Waker and Majora's Mask to the conversation. And trust me, that doesn't favour FF VII at all. There is no amount of PSP spin offs or mediocre CGI movies that can compete with three masterpieces of gaming. Especially when we are talking about... well, games.

Not that this hipothetical situation matters, because we are comparing two particular games right here: PS1's clasic FF VII, launched in 1997 and N64's classic TLoZ: Ocarina of Time, launched in 1998. Everything else doesn't matter at all. Movies, remasters, sequels, spin offs... that is irrelevant. If you need external material to get the full experience of a game in order to beat another single game... then maybe your game is flawed to begin with, because it fails to complete itself.

Those stories is pretty much forgotten but go ahead and add them to the mix if it makes you feel like it's better. Oh I forgot, those stories still don't compare to FF7, because FF7 story is still impactful even today. So strange for a "flawed" game huh?



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Final Fantasy 7 cause it's a present day game that is coming soon in superb graphic grandeur whereas Ocarina of Time is a game I played a long time ago and thus I feel kind of distant towards it.

Now if you mean the old version of FF7 then Ocarina of Time is a trillion times better in my opinion cause I've seen videos of the old FF7 and to me it's just an animated .Gif background on which you simply move characters around, graphically horrible whereas Ocarina of Time is a true full 3D rendered game.



deskpro2k3 said:
Vodacixi said:

Then we should add Wind Waker and Majora's Mask to the conversation. And trust me, that doesn't favour FF VII at all. There is no amount of PSP spin offs or mediocre CGI movies that can compete with three masterpieces of gaming. Especially when we are talking about... well, games.

Not that this hipothetical situation matters, because we are comparing two particular games right here: PS1's clasic FF VII, launched in 1997 and N64's classic TLoZ: Ocarina of Time, launched in 1998. Everything else doesn't matter at all. Movies, remasters, sequels, spin offs... that is irrelevant. If you need external material to get the full experience of a game in order to beat another single game... then maybe your game is flawed to begin with, because it fails to complete itself.

Those stories is pretty much forgotten but go ahead and add them to the mix if it makes you feel like it's better. Oh I forgot, those stories still don't compare to FF7, because FF7 story is still impactful even today. So strange for a "flawed" game huh?

"Is still impactful even today". Okay: how so? I'm genuinely curious.

Also, we are not talking about just story here. We are talking about games. Which are a lot more than that. And if in order to say that FF VII is better than Ocarina you need to mention tbat it has spin offs and a CGI movie, maybe you are lacking arguments for the actual 1997 game. Which I repeat, is the one we are talking about here.

The whole point of this conversation we are having is to make you understand how silly is to throw external material in the equation when we are comparing two particular games. It makes no sense because what we are talking about is: "I played Ocarina of Time and also Final Fantasy VII. Which one is better?" We are discussing this two games. Not which one got more or better extra media. If you say "FF wins in story, music... and spin offs and movies", then you clearly lack any more arguments than story and music. Because you resort to things external to the game in question.

But even if we resort to external things, Ocarina of Time received two sequels that are considered gaming masterpieces. That alone is enough to bury your cute little PSP spin offs and your CGI movie that will only appeal to fans, but as an actual movie is mediocre at best.

Then again, this last paragraph hardly matters because WE ARE DISCUSSING A N64 AND A PS1 ONE GAME HERE. NOT SPIN OFFS AN MOVIES.

I don't have anything else to say.