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Gamescom is bigger anyways for the fans that attend. E3 is starting to crumble regardless. The majority of those who watch online just like to troll the developers and announcements on Twitch or YouTube. Comment section is more or less a cesspool there.



twintail said:
thismeintiel said:

There was basically a war going on behind the scenes. One side, which included Sony, wants the show to become more fan focused and open it completely up to the public. The other side, which I'm assuming includes MS, wants it to stay as is, mainly for the press and insiders.

The issue was that E3 had become neither a trade show nor a consumer event but an amalgamation of the two. That was the problem that Layden (and I guess Sony) had with the event. Trying to focus on both the trade and fan aspects of the show was a mess for everyone involved (press have even mentioned it being far more difficult to get to appointments, demo games and do interviews then it used to be before the shift)

Layden suggested that just moving to a consumer show made more sense, because E3 is too late in many cases to work with retailers to stock product, something Sony does is February anyways. 

Whether there is behind the scenes drama is something I cant verify from any source. I would assume that isnt the case because E3 has being moving to being more consumers focused. But at this point, when they finally commit, it will be too late I feel. Sony are out and I doubt they are going back if Sony's current plans work out. 

I kinda doubt this debate only started in 2017, when they opened to the public in a limited capacity. Personally, I think that was a move to try to appease the group that wanted it to become more consumer oriented. But, it turned out a to be too little too late.



I assume someone else will be at the door handing out Doritos and whatever energy drink was in DS?



twintail said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:
Am I the only one who thinks this announcement will actually make E3 better?

How so?

On a side note, seems he wasn't happy with the ESAs direction:

https://twitter.com/geoffkeighley/status/1227644985844981760?s=20

I haven't seen one event where I thought Geoff Keighley's presence made it better.  Instead my reaction is normally, "dammit not this guy again".



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Well it seems things are getting worse for E3.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

To those who think this doesn't matter, think again. Even if you dislike Keighley, he still has connections and a degree of influence in the gaming industry. He had been working for years and years to keep E3 alive and relevant. Why would he distance himself from it unless he sees it as a sinking ship? If you're concerned in any way about E3's future, this should concern you at least a bit.



Spike0503 said:
To those who think this doesn't matter, think again. Even if you dislike Keighley, he still has connections and a degree of influence in the gaming industry. He had been working for years and years to keep E3 alive and relevant. Why would he distance himself from it unless he sees it as a sinking ship? If you're concerned in any way about E3's future, this should concern you at least a bit.


How exactly has the Dorito Pope been “working for years and years” to keep it alive and relevant? Hasn’t he leaked various things in the past? I know I remember he leaked stuff about Scorpio before MS’s E3 presentation. How is that making E3 relevant? Seems like that’s the opposite.

I watch E3 every year and didn’t even know he had some special E3 production. This could be something as trivial as not wanting to conflict with his own gaming event. Or maybe Sony even snagged him for the PS5 event. There’s also rumors that they’re making E3 a lot more focused on influencers and celebrities and maybe he just feels like he wouldn’t generate enough buzz.

Bizarre that before he announced he wasn’t going, no one gave a shit about Dorito Pope at E3. Now he’s not going and he’s been the mastermind behind E3 for years and it will crumble without him 😆



Radek said:
LudicrousSpeed said:


How exactly has the Dorito Pope been “working for years and years” to keep it alive and relevant? Hasn’t he leaked various things in the past? I know I remember he leaked stuff about Scorpio before MS’s E3 presentation. How is that making E3 relevant? Seems like that’s the opposite.

I watch E3 every year and didn’t even know he had some special E3 production. This could be something as trivial as not wanting to conflict with his own gaming event. Or maybe Sony even snagged him for the PS5 event. There’s also rumors that they’re making E3 a lot more focused on influencers and celebrities and maybe he just feels like he wouldn’t generate enough buzz.

Bizarre that before he announced he wasn’t going, no one gave a shit about Dorito Pope at E3. Now he’s not going and he’s been the mastermind behind E3 for years and it will crumble without him 😆

Way to discredit the man using old memes.

He's a fantastic host, has good stage presence and is easy to understand for me as a non native English speaker.

25 years of working on E3 ain't something you can just downplay.

Guess working 25 years mean doing nothing.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

LudicrousSpeed said:
Spike0503 said:
To those who think this doesn't matter, think again. Even if you dislike Keighley, he still has connections and a degree of influence in the gaming industry. He had been working for years and years to keep E3 alive and relevant. Why would he distance himself from it unless he sees it as a sinking ship? If you're concerned in any way about E3's future, this should concern you at least a bit.


How exactly has the Dorito Pope been “working for years and years” to keep it alive and relevant? Hasn’t he leaked various things in the past? I know I remember he leaked stuff about Scorpio before MS’s E3 presentation. How is that making E3 relevant? Seems like that’s the opposite.

I watch E3 every year and didn’t even know he had some special E3 production. This could be something as trivial as not wanting to conflict with his own gaming event. Or maybe Sony even snagged him for the PS5 event. There’s also rumors that they’re making E3 a lot more focused on influencers and celebrities and maybe he just feels like he wouldn’t generate enough buzz.

Bizarre that before he announced he wasn’t going, no one gave a shit about Dorito Pope at E3. Now he’s not going and he’s been the mastermind behind E3 for years and it will crumble without him 😆

Your mocking image of past Keighley is not relevant enough for it to have some weight in your comment,but i get that you dislike him.

He is a pretty important guy because of his connections in the gaming industry and ofcourse E3 wont crumble without him,it can be a multitude of things if that happens.