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sales2099 said:
DonFerrari said:

Let's pretend MS can make all their devs launch a game in the next 3 years. They will have 14 games, is that enough for Xcloud to function? Nope.

So don't pretend like Xbox have a rich catalog. Third parties are over 90% of that and if they don't allow their game won't be on the service, just as what is happening with NVIDIA.

I’d say it’s more then 1 game a piece. Ninja Theory making 3 games now. playground 2, Obsidian 2. What about all 1st party games (and published) ones from the 360 and Xbox One gens? Throw in a partnership with a major publisher like EA and you have something so long as the infrastructure is solid. I’m optimistic :)

Yes people will pay for the sub to play X360 games, and a few X1 gems... you can inflate your numbers as much as you want and even add EA. For Xcloud or any other service like that to really work they will need plenty of titles and variety and for that they are all tied to the same problem of these publishers playing ball. Meaning that in this sense Xbox (nor anyone) really have a leg over anyone else. Perhaps Nintendo could have their stream service with their exclusives and have a big success (if they had a good infrastructure for online and streaming, which we know they don't have).



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

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DonFerrari said:
sales2099 said:

I’d say it’s more then 1 game a piece. Ninja Theory making 3 games now. playground 2, Obsidian 2. What about all 1st party games (and published) ones from the 360 and Xbox One gens? Throw in a partnership with a major publisher like EA and you have something so long as the infrastructure is solid. I’m optimistic :)

Yes people will pay for the sub to play X360 games, and a few X1 gems... you can inflate your numbers as much as you want and even add EA. For Xcloud or any other service like that to really work they will need plenty of titles and variety and for that they are all tied to the same problem of these publishers playing ball. Meaning that in this sense Xbox (nor anyone) really have a leg over anyone else. Perhaps Nintendo could have their stream service with their exclusives and have a big success (if they had a good infrastructure for online and streaming, which we know they don't have).

Guess you can say I’m optimistic MS knows better how to strike a partnership. With them having more day to day experience and relations in the industry. Not to mention this is their one of few options to capitalize where Sony can’t follow. We’ll see 

Edit: Game Pass is pretty successful according to MS and it only has a couple hundred games. It launched with 100. You don’t need several hundred to make it big. The games just have to be good enough, service has to work, and have enough exclusives to set apart. Again in a few years the last point will be well in its way to be realized, and even more so going forward after that. 

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sales2099 said:
DonFerrari said:

Yes people will pay for the sub to play X360 games, and a few X1 gems... you can inflate your numbers as much as you want and even add EA. For Xcloud or any other service like that to really work they will need plenty of titles and variety and for that they are all tied to the same problem of these publishers playing ball. Meaning that in this sense Xbox (nor anyone) really have a leg over anyone else. Perhaps Nintendo could have their stream service with their exclusives and have a big success (if they had a good infrastructure for online and streaming, which we know they don't have).

Guess you can say I’m optimistic MS knows better how to strike a partnership. With them having more day to day experience and relations in the industry. Not to mention this is their one of few options to capitalize where Sony can’t follow. We’ll see 

Edit: Game Pass is pretty successful according to MS and it only has a couple hundred games. It launched with 100. You don’t need several hundred to make it big. The games just have to be good enough, service has to work, and have enough exclusives to set apart. Again in a few years the last point will be well in its way to be realized, and even more so going forward after that. 

Well yep I do think MS can put a good service on Xcloud and do good partnerships (although NVIDIA I would also expect to have good relationships with most publishers, but guess both sides couldn't agree on a fair profit share). And sure you can be optimistic.

To start the service sure 100 is plenty but that needs either growth or cycling, you wouldn't keep a high and growing number of subs if you had the same 100 games for 5 years, just as consoles don't keep selling if there aren't new games coming.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

DonFerrari said:
sales2099 said:

Guess you can say I’m optimistic MS knows better how to strike a partnership. With them having more day to day experience and relations in the industry. Not to mention this is their one of few options to capitalize where Sony can’t follow. We’ll see 

Edit: Game Pass is pretty successful according to MS and it only has a couple hundred games. It launched with 100. You don’t need several hundred to make it big. The games just have to be good enough, service has to work, and have enough exclusives to set apart. Again in a few years the last point will be well in its way to be realized, and even more so going forward after that. 

Well yep I do think MS can put a good service on Xcloud and do good partnerships (although NVIDIA I would also expect to have good relationships with most publishers, but guess both sides couldn't agree on a fair profit share). And sure you can be optimistic.

To start the service sure 100 is plenty but that needs either growth or cycling, you wouldn't keep a high and growing number of subs if you had the same 100 games for 5 years, just as consoles don't keep selling if there aren't new games coming.

Well a quick search showed Stadia having about 40 games out now while Xcloud, still in preview mode for 10-20k globally, has about 50. So far so good. They seem to know how to cycle games like they do in Game Pass while all new 1st party games are new and permanent additions.

With the indie games being pumped out besides the big guns it looks like Xcloud/Game Pass/consoles will get a steady stream. I mean 2020 is a great example of A-AA padding out the year until Forza 8/Halo Infinite. So I say let these other players flounder and pave the way for Xcloud when the tech and market is ready for it. 



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