Nu-13 said:
I'm using vgc numbers and you're the one who started this. I didn't even mention the switch. |
Lol vgchartz numbers. Yes you didnt mention the switch but I just find it weird that you only think ps4 is overshipped but never thought or mentioned the switch was overshipped
| Pinkie_pie said: Some people still doubting if ps4 can sell 120 million lifetime? It only needs to ship another 11 million and theres a good chance it can in 2020 |
I don't think anyone is doubting that. Personally I don't, what I do doubt however is the PS4 beating the PS2 and reaching 160 million units sold.
Of course that does not mean it can't, I just don't think it will, that's all.
Pinkie_pie said:
Lol vgchartz numbers. Yes you didnt mention the switch but I just find it weird that you only think ps4 is overshipped but never thought or mentioned the switch was overshipped |
Because the switch's shipments (while overshipped) are somewhat in line with it's sales.
What could it all mean? Sadly theres not much we can extrapolate from this information. Its all a mistery.
Nu-13 said:
Problem is that not only those sold through predictions are unrealistically optimistic, it also ignores actual sold through vs shipped logic. Ps4 sold around 106m by the end of 2019 and an old console will have less and less difference between shipped and sold through until discontinuation. Should expect something like 8-8.5m this year and exponential drops every year after that. |
Nu-13, thats not unrealistic at all, to ship 11m in 2020 would be expected imo.
Neither is 10m more over 3years alot.
PS4 is still tracking ahead of the PS2 launch aligned.
Im not saying that will always be true, however the race isnt over yet, theres plenty of life and sales yet to come in the PS4.
"Should expect something like 8-8.5m this year and exponential drops every year after that." - Nu-13
You think it will go from 14,7m -> 8m ? (2019->2020)
Even if XB2 / PS5 launch at say 500$? and maybe PS4 gets a price cut? nah dude, thats too much of a nose dive.
I bet you ll be pleasently surprised end of 2020.
I'd expect it to do over 12m in 2020 (shipped).
"2019 is the 2nd biggest year ever for PlayStation with over $18.72B in Revenue"
^ 2019 was a "slow" year, end of console life cycle.
However next year, theres like a price cut + FF7R + TLoU p2 + CyberPunk 2077.
2020 will probably be alot like 2019 was, hardware sales wise.
*edit:
That said I was wrong about 2019, I expected it to do like 15-16m.... however without a price cut just didnt happend.
2020 That has to happend, well before the PS5 launches.
I always knew that this site's European numbers over the holidays were bullshit with Switch outselling PS4 there. Didn't make sense.
Seems like I was right anyways since Switch was over tracked by 500k there and PS4 was likely under tracked there by this site.
colafitte said:
Switch Lite ships 5M during 2019 at 100$ less and you sell only 2'5-3M more to consumers than the year before?? when everybody here was expecting to surpass 20M??, including me. You know that the last 2 or 3 months of the year are the ones really important to Nintendo consoles right?, Switch being 20% up compared to a disappointing first 9 months of 2018 was nothing to brag about. The reality is that if Switch sold 19M in 2019, it means it did around the same or worse than the last 3 months of 2018..., which i find disappointing. "My my" indeed... And lol about "two unrelated subjects"......Both are gaming consoles selling at comparative prices, being one twice as old as the other....but ey..., i already asked Nintendo fans to not be upset about my impressions, i won't insist anymore.... |
He is the guy that say both systems compete directly, even when CEO from both companies say otherwise. But in here they are both unrelated. Funny stuff.
duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363
Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994
Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."
DonFerrari said:
He is the guy that say both systems compete directly, even when CEO from both companies say otherwise. But in here they are both unrelated. Funny stuff. |
Reading comprehension is underrated.
does sony detail their profit numbers in financial releases like this one? i'd love to compare their revenue/profit percentages to nintendo and microsoft.
also, anyone trying to downplay PS4 sales or say it wont reach 120m is delusional lol.
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