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Forums - Sales Discussion - Total sell in for the PlayStation 4 has reached 108.9 million units as of December 31st 2019 While Game & Network Service Down 20%

Barkley on 04 February 2020
Pinkie_pie said:
Nu-13 said:

Vg chartz has it at 48.8m at the end of 2019. Even if you look at statistically, over 48m is anything from 48.00...1 to 48.9999..., so it's more likely to be under 4m than at or over.

You going with vgchartz number? If its closer to 49 million nintendo would and should announced over 48.5 million. Im assuming its under 48.5 million sold. 

Nintendo don't use decimals when announcing sell-through figures, It's always "Over X Million". Why? Who the hell knows, it's Nintendo.



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zorg1000 on 04 February 2020

Looks like PS4 will pass Gameboy sometime this year and become the 3rd best selling console ever.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

Replicant on 04 February 2020
zorg1000 said:
Looks like PS4 will pass Gameboy sometime this year and become the 3rd best selling console ever.

I think sold to consumers could be in 2021 depending on PS5 price, launch (October?), and early success.



zorg1000 on 04 February 2020
Replicant said:
zorg1000 said:
Looks like PS4 will pass Gameboy sometime this year and become the 3rd best selling console ever.

I think sold to consumers could be in 2021 depending on PS5 price, launch (October?), and early success.

You're probably right, shipped end of 2020 and sold in the first half of 2021.



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colafitte on 04 February 2020
Pinkie_pie said:
colafitte said:

I've been out the last few days without coming to VGC because of work and i'm seeing that Switch now has 19'3M sold to costumers according to VGC in 2019 instead of around 20'5M the last time i saw the numbers, and now i see you saying Nintendo itself said they sold "more than 48M" to consumers. It's that true? If true then, wow, i did not expected that number at all...

Yes nintendo announced over 48 million sold by 31st of December 2019. Vgchartz then adjusted down by 1.5 million. Vgchartz still has switch sold 48.8 million by end of December which is most unlikely

Thanks!, I didn't knew this.... So it's like last year when they said the same "more than 29M" and i was discussing here with some people that this didn't mean the console sold 29'9M, so yeah the console could be perfectly around 48'5M. That means almost 4M units on shelves....lol.

I'm going to say it, please Nintendo fans, don't get mad at me, i'm just being honest: I'm as disappointed at that "low" number as i'm disappointed at myself with missing the correct number i predicted by more than 1M...yikes. And this is with Switch Lite shipping 5M during 2019 at 100$ less than the normal Switch. Without Switch Lite, Switch would had trouble even reaching 18M units sold.....mmmm. Surprising...

That puts into perspective how great is that PS4 still sold almost 14'5M to consumers in 2019 in its 6th year of life, and at the same price as the last few years.



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RaptorChrist on 04 February 2020
HollyGamer said:
Leynos said:
I don't have a 4K TV but still wondering if I should get a Pro for some games to run better for wait 2-3 years when I get a PS5. Thoughts?

Just wait another year or two, 4K will be even cheaper 

How expensive are they where you're from. I'm from Chicago and I bought my 50-ish inch (I want to say 55, but I'm really not sure) for around $300 almost a year ago. They seem to have already reached the point where they are sold for very cheap. If a few years go by and Leynos still hasn't gotten one, maybe wait for 8k, I would think.



Nu-13 on 04 February 2020
Pinkie_pie said:
Nu-13 said:

Vg chartz has it at 48.8m at the end of 2019. Even if you look at statistically, over 48m is anything from 48.00...1 to 48.9999..., so it's more likely to be under 4m than at or over.

You going with vgchartz number? If its closer to 49 million nintendo would and should announced over 48.5 million. Im assuming its under 48.5 million sold. 

Like when they did so with the wii that was at .8m?



Nu-13 on 04 February 2020
colafitte said:
Pinkie_pie said:

Yes nintendo announced over 48 million sold by 31st of December 2019. Vgchartz then adjusted down by 1.5 million. Vgchartz still has switch sold 48.8 million by end of December which is most unlikely

Thanks!, I didn't knew this.... So it's like last year when they said the same "more than 29M" and i was discussing here with some people that this didn't mean the console sold 29'9M, so yeah the console could be perfectly around 48'5M. That means almost 4M units on shelves....lol.

I'm going to say it, please Nintendo fans, don't get mad at me, i'm just being honest: I'm as disappointed at that "low" number as i'm disappointed at myself with missing the correct number i predicted by more than 1M...yikes. And this is with Switch Lite shipping 5M during 2019 at 100$ less than the normal Switch. Without Switch Lite, Switch would had trouble even reaching 18M units sold.....mmmm. Surprising...

That puts into perspective how great is that PS4 still sold almost 14'5M to consumers in 2019 in its 6th year of life, and at the same price as the last few years.

My my. The switch was confortably up without the switch lite, which isn't even that popular. And that puts no perspective on ps4 sales, being two unrelated subjects.



HollyGamer on 04 February 2020
RaptorChrist said:
HollyGamer said:

Just wait another year or two, 4K will be even cheaper 

How expensive are they where you're from. I'm from Chicago and I bought my 50-ish inch (I want to say 55, but I'm really not sure) for around $300 almost a year ago. They seem to have already reached the point where they are sold for very cheap. If a few years go by and Leynos still hasn't gotten one, maybe wait for 8k, I would think.

Of course there are a lot cheaper option nowadays but it only limited to some model and brand.  Future model will have more choice with better tech and more capabilities. I am waiting for 4k with VRSS and better lag input.  



colafitte on 04 February 2020
Nu-13 said:
colafitte said:

Thanks!, I didn't knew this.... So it's like last year when they said the same "more than 29M" and i was discussing here with some people that this didn't mean the console sold 29'9M, so yeah the console could be perfectly around 48'5M. That means almost 4M units on shelves....lol.

I'm going to say it, please Nintendo fans, don't get mad at me, i'm just being honest: I'm as disappointed at that "low" number as i'm disappointed at myself with missing the correct number i predicted by more than 1M...yikes. And this is with Switch Lite shipping 5M during 2019 at 100$ less than the normal Switch. Without Switch Lite, Switch would had trouble even reaching 18M units sold.....mmmm. Surprising...

That puts into perspective how great is that PS4 still sold almost 14'5M to consumers in 2019 in its 6th year of life, and at the same price as the last few years.

My my. The switch was confortably up without the switch lite, which isn't even that popular. And that puts no perspective on ps4 sales, being two unrelated subjects.

Switch Lite ships 5M during 2019 at 100$ less and you sell only 2'5-3M more to consumers than the year before?? when everybody here was expecting to surpass 20M??, including me. You know that the last 2 or 3 months of the year are the ones really important to Nintendo consoles right?, Switch being 20% up compared to a disappointing first 9 months of 2018 was nothing to brag about. The reality is that if Switch sold 19M in 2019, it means it did around the same or worse than the last 3 months of 2018..., which i find disappointing.

"My my" indeed...

And lol about "two unrelated subjects"......Both are gaming consoles selling at comparative prices, being one twice as old as the other....but ey..., i already asked Nintendo fans to not be upset about my impressions, i won't insist anymore....