Likely the last time it is overshipped to this degree.

That's crazy~! Congrats Sony!

Let's see how long before it'll bump Game Boy for the #3 spot.  :P

Problem is that not only those sold through predictions are unrealistically optimistic, it also ignores actual sold through vs shipped logic. Ps4 sold around 106m by the end of 2019 and an old console will have less and less difference between shipped and sold through until discontinuation. Should expect something like 8-8.5m this year and exponential drops every year after that.

2.9 million on shelves is overshipped? What about the switch? Over 4 million on shelves

Good numbers and of course they would be on the downward due to end of gen, but some associate it with Switch release.

Impressive results....my god.

108'9M in total shipments means it did better than i expected this quarter but it will do less in next quarter too, but it's ok. So 108'9M shipped by the end of 2019 means that by the time PS5 launches PS4 will be close to 120M shipped. PS4 is tracking better than PS2 (108'9M > 103'7M) too. PS4 could add another 5-10M shipped after PS5, so 130M at the end is still a real possibility.

But the most impressive data is still the amount of money Sony is generating with the whole gaming division during 2019. More than Nintendo and Microsoft gaming divisions as a whole combined, 18'7B $ (being 12'5B $  just from PSN) for PS4 against 9'4B $ for Switch and Microsoft 4'3B $ counting XBO and PC numbers....bufff (if i read the numbers wrong, please somebody correct me).

That's the only number Sony really cares. That's why you won't see individual game sales like Nintendo does. A shame, but it is what it is....

Now we need to wait until April to know how much Sony expects PS4 to do during 2020 FY and if there is going to be any price cuts at all. That will give us the definitive clue about how PS4 is probably end in its lifetime.

Wrong number but the switch sells enough to be overshipped like that after holidays (PS4 also had like 4m stock after a holiday quarter while selling less). Curretnly, the ps4 doesn't sell anywhere near enough to justify so much stock and we'll see the difference between sold and shipped getting very small over the next years.

Switch released almost 3 years ago. If you're talking about the switch's PRESENCE, of course it will have some effect.

They might even fall a little short of 2.3m but it'll still be enough over 1.4m to bring the gap down. When I said easily I more meant the chances of it not happening were very slim, not that they'd ship much if any in excess of the 13.5m forecast.

And yes 13m for 2020 is unrealistic, whether he means calendar or fiscal. It'll be under 10m.

The guy is obviously mad at PlayStation 4's success, that's all. Still I don't understand why there are still people mad at PlayStation's success since PS1, PS2, PS4 are all major success, they should be used to.

The pain is real man.