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Will Switch get AAA support after 9-th gen consoles launch

Yes, as good or better 25 34.25%
 
Yes, but less games 18 24.66%
 
Yes, Switch will get exclusives 11 15.07%
 
No, just spinoff games 9 12.33%
 
No, Switch will get dropped 10 13.70%
 
Total:73

The Switch has third party support today ?...



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DonFerrari said:
They will probably get similar support that they have now. Games that don't push the envelope and/or have a good chance of selling well on Switch will be ported the rest won't.

It depends on what you mean by "push the envelope".  To me a game like Untitled Goose Game pushes the envelope a lot more than Red Dead Redemption 2 does.  Goose Game is one of the most original games I've played in several years.  RDR2 is basically more of the same with some improvements.

Switch will get games that push the envelope in that they provide original games or at least games not commonly found on the other two consoles.  Pushing the envelope on graphics?  No Switch games are not going to do that.



The_Liquid_Laser said:
DonFerrari said:
They will probably get similar support that they have now. Games that don't push the envelope and/or have a good chance of selling well on Switch will be ported the rest won't.

It depends on what you mean by "push the envelope".  To me a game like Untitled Goose Game pushes the envelope a lot more than Red Dead Redemption 2 does.  Goose Game is one of the most original games I've played in several years.  RDR2 is basically more of the same with some improvements.

Switch will get games that push the envelope in that they provide original games or at least games not commonly found on the other two consoles.  Pushing the envelope on graphics?  No Switch games are not going to do that.

Yes let's try to change the wording to mean something that wasn't intended.



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MajorMalfunction said:

With PS5 and Xbox Series X coming out at the end of the year, do you think Switch will get ports in 2020 and beyond? I don't think so. Here's why: With the launch of new consoles, developers will be porting games in a short time frame. This means less engineering bandwidth available for Switch.

Second, with next gen consoles having 30x the GPU capability (Switch handheld - handheld is the limiting factor), less focus will be given to scaling down, and more focus given to scaling up. Some games like Cyberpunk 2077 have reportedly had issues with the base Xbox One. This rules out a Switch port IMO. Unless it's farmed out to a porting house, and the game's content and engine allow it, it's probably not going to happen.

Third is new engines. Related to point 2, but worth expanding on, developers will be working with new engines because of the console launches. Probably not until 2021 or 2022, but it's going to happen. Better lighting and shading techniques comes from the research community. As an example, deferred shading was first written about in 1988. There's a surplus of good research that's already been done, but not implementable efficiently, mostly because hardware hasn't quite caught up yet. My prediction is that developers will try to reduce bake times and improve quality by using techniques the Switch can't handle at target frame-rate. My prediction is that Switch gets left behind. I'd like to be wrong, but it's the conclusion I've come to by looking at the data available.

Just wanted to point out that your reasoning only makes sense in a world where developers don't like money. Porting to Switch can mean big profits, so they are going to continue porting their games to it. You are also making the handheld the limiting factor when not considering that Nintendo may have console revisions up their sleeve to counter the PS5.



If we are talking about big third party games, then how many has the Switch gotten from this gen? Like 5? Doom, Wolfenstein 2, The Witcher 3.....Fifa 19?...…..NBA 2K19?

Yeah, I don't think it will go down much. They will still get the AA games and indie games.



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Chicho said:

Remember the DS got even a GTA game. The more the switch sells the more 3rd party games it will get. 

Something that has changed significantly over the years is we don't see 3rd parties really creating exclusive content. There was a period where developers would even create completely different games for lower spec devices, like PS2 and Wii.

Even at 50+ million units sold, it doesn't look like developers are creating unique content for Switch.

Naturally a lot of content like mostly 2D visuals and indie stuff works on Switch. Based on current trends, developers might design some games to scale easily on Switch. Team Sonic Racing and Crash Team Racing for example really seem like Switch was a focus, but these games can still look much more impressive on other platforms.



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Well, probably ps4 and one will keep getting games for a long time.
At least xbox will support one with new games for 2 years. PS4 has a large base and developers wont drop it soon.
Would be the same situation that switch currently is in port receiving for 2 or 3 years at least after ps5/XSX launch.



People who claim Switch's third party support will disappear when PS5/XSX come out act as though it's already getting a ton of current gen AAA games and that it depends on them to sell.

Neither is the case.

Switch isn't going to stop selling when it doesn't get the latest Call of Duty, RDR, GTA, etc, because it's already not getting and those games, and that hasn't stopped it being one of the fastest selling systems in history.

Switch does not need AAA third party support.



Radek said:
curl-6 said:

People who claim Switch's third party support will disappear when PS5/XSX come out act as though it's already getting a ton of current gen AAA games and that it depends on them to sell.

Neither is the case.

Switch isn't going to stop selling when it doesn't get the latest Call of Duty, RDR, GTA, etc, because it's already not getting and those games, and that hasn't stopped it being one of the fastest selling systems in history.

Switch does not need AAA third party support.

Maybe they don't need them, but for me they make the system seem more attractive, like if Rockstar announced GTA V for Switch tomorrow I'd be buying Lite right away.

Oh don't me wrong, I for one really like that Switch gets games like Doom 2016 and Witcher 3, I just don't think they're a major selling point for most consumers since there are so few of them.



Yes. Obviously the high spec stuff won't be ported to Switch, as the current high spec stuff hasn't either with a few exceptions. A ton of Switch's third-party games are 7th Gen and older ports, as well as indies. Neither of those are technically demanding.
PS5 and Xbox Series X will affect the Switch, but I don't expect a huge Switch drop-off because of them. At least not right away.



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PS4: 120 mil (was 100 then 130 million, then 122 million) Xbox One: 51 mil (was 50 then 55 mil)

3DS: 75.5 mil (was 73, then 77 million)

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