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So, I must apologize, I have been keeping the idea that we still might have a Switch Pro coming this year, and that Nintendo was just trying to keep healthy the sales of the 2 current models, and also, to not screw up the launch of Animal Crossing in march...

I am not the only one to have thought that, so it seems that lying to investors can have very bad consequences, and here this would be a significant and strong lie to the investors, the sentence was clear...If it would have been instead something less accurate like :

"We are not planning to release a new hardware this year"

This would have still let a room for a Switch pro...Because it would not be a "new" hardware but just a variation of the existing...

So I am not unhappy with the eventuality of a much stronger new hybrid console in 2021 totally retro compatible, so people buying it would still have more than 3000 games available on day 1, 3rd party could port 9th gen games because the new "Super Switch" would have the power of a PS4, and Nintendo could still in the same time keep supporting the current Switch in releasing two versions of Splatoon 3, two versions of Mario Kart 9...



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RolStoppable said:
Will you also apologize for your closing paragraph?

"closing paragraph" ? I don't get it.. :(



It is maybe not impossible in late 2021 to have a portable with a power similar to a base XBOX1/PS4.
I see no problem with that: The new switch could play every current switch games thanks to a total retro-compatibility.
At this point in late 2021, customer could buy a regular switch costing only 240€ maybe, the Lite at 150€, and these 2 consoles could still be supported until 2022/2023 because Nintendo could manage internally clean ports to keep releasing downgraded versions of their future IP on the 2 old Switch, and next to this a full version for the new console (350€ ?).

3rd party can release new games on 64/128Go cartridges for the new switch, and they have the possibility also to create downgraded games on the 2 old switch to take profit of a 80/90 millions install base.



Bandorr said:
This "super switch" would have a handheld as powerful as the ps4? Or only when docked? An only when docked console would be very strange for the switch. The "portability" of it is the saving grace of it.

In handled : 1080p

In docked : 1440p or even 4K



RolStoppable said:
Amnesia said:

It is maybe not impossible in late 2021 to have a portable with a power similar to a base XBOX1/PS4.
I see no problem with that: The new switch could play every current switch games thanks to a total retro-compatibility.
At this point in late 2021, customer could buy a regular switch costing only 240€ maybe, the Lite at 150€, and these 2 consoles could still be supported until 2022/2023 because Nintendo could manage internally clean ports to keep releasing downgraded versions of their future IP on the 2 old Switch, and next to this a full version for the new console.

3rd party can release new games on 64/128Go cartridges for the new switch, and they have the possibility also to create downgraded games on the 2 old switch to take profit of a 80/90 millions install base.

Power similar to XB1 and PS4 is a laughably small increase that isn't going to accomplish anything positive. The biggest change such a device is going to bring is a significant reduction in battery life.

Then something half way between the current Switch and the base XBOX1...Only that would already open a fair amount of potential.

I am just trying to imagine a scenario where they are successful and coherent. Don't blame me : 90% of the people here were absolutely sure that we were going to have a Switch Pro this year.



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Am I the only one who doesn't want a Switch Pro? Better focus on the existing power rather than just go splitting up the userbase through power tiers.



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Darwinianevolution said:
Am I the only one who doesn't want a Switch Pro? Better focus on the existing power rather than just go splitting up the userbase through power tiers.

I want the next leap to be their next-gen console, not interested in doing the whole mid-gen upgrade



Amnesia said:
Bandorr said:
This "super switch" would have a handheld as powerful as the ps4? Or only when docked? An only when docked console would be very strange for the switch. The "portability" of it is the saving grace of it.

In handled : 1080p

In docked : 1440p or even 4K

If I did a Switch+ version it would be:

  • Handheld: double the battery life.
  • Docked: double the power.

The extra docked power would only improve performance and resolution for those dynamically scaled titles.



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Hiku said:
Amnesia said:

I am not the only one to have thought that, so it seems that lying to investors can have very bad consequences, and here this would be a significant and strong lie to the investors, the sentence was clear...If it would have been instead something less accurate like :

"We are not planning to release a new hardware this year"

This would have still let a room for a Switch pro...Because it would not be a "new" hardware but just a variation of the existing...

What did they say exactly? I assume this is from their quarterly results?

I also haven't been keeping up with the recent Switch Pro rumor development. I think I heard something about a new Switch version coming this year, but we don't know what it is yet.

The best would be to find the original Japanese statement...From that there has been a ton of slightly different interpretation in every other languages. They can't lie to people who are putting money on their company, but they could have played with words also to avoid lying and hide as best as they could that a new model of Switch was coming this year.



What is this thread even about? OP is talking about a Switch Pro but talking about it like its a Switch 2. Any Switch Pro that comes out is not gonna be some super powered Switch that splits the game base into two libraries, that is a Switch 2. A premium version of the Switch, which I'm sure will come out at some point if not this year, will be more like, "hey all the games run smoother and in a bit higher rez" sort of performance bump, not a whole new gen bump in performance, because that would be stupid and that is what the next gen would be for, which is years away for Nintendo.