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RolStoppable said:
S.Peelman said:
Honourabl decision to put it out on a card after-all. Maybe they talked to CDPR.

People shouldn't get too excited yet. The publisher said that the physical game will have a card now, but it's still third party, so that doesn't mean that the entire game will be on the card.

True. Third parties are known to go out of their way to find something dodgy to do.



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I was gonna get it anyway, but now it'll be extra nice to be able to add it to my physical collection. I always prefer to own my games physically when possible, I want my SD card to last me the generation.

Now if only Limited Run or Super Rare or someone could do a physical release for Hellblade...



Jumpin said:

I know it’s a nitpick. But game card, not cartridges.

I actually think this era of incorrect terminology us worse than the PlayStation/laserdisc thing, and might be more widespread than the NES/tapes thing.

A game card is a cartridge-based format... Another correct term could be Game Pak.

But you are right in that officially Nintendo calls it a "Game Card" but the other terms are correct also.

curl-6 said:

I was gonna get it anyway, but now it'll be extra nice to be able to add it to my physical collection. I always prefer to own my games physically when possible, I want my SD card to last me the generation.

Now if only Limited Run or Super Rare or someone could do a physical release for Hellblade...

I also prefer the carts due to longevity.
Mask ROMS are simply more durable than NAND and will not bitflip and loose data over time like an SD Card... I am a collector so that is important to me.



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Pemalite said:
curl-6 said:

I was gonna get it anyway, but now it'll be extra nice to be able to add it to my physical collection. I always prefer to own my games physically when possible, I want my SD card to last me the generation.

Now if only Limited Run or Super Rare or someone could do a physical release for Hellblade...

I also prefer the carts due to longevity.
Mask ROMS are simply more durable than NAND and will not bitflip and loose data over time like an SD Card... I am a collector so that is important to me.

Yeah I still play my old consoles like my SNES and N64, so I certainly plan to be revisiting my Switch in another 20 years time, and I would like it if itand my games collection lasted til then, with proper care.



curl-6 said:
Pemalite said:

I also prefer the carts due to longevity.
Mask ROMS are simply more durable than NAND and will not bitflip and loose data over time like an SD Card... I am a collector so that is important to me.

Yeah I still play my old consoles like my SNES and N64, so I certainly plan to be revisiting my Switch in another 20 years time, and I would like it if itand my games collection lasted til then, with proper care.

One small issue with that theory, Cartridges dont last forever where as Digital Media has no life span. I have 100s of cartridges from the NES, SNES and N64 and not all of them work due to them being worn out and deteriorating over time.

My Super Mario Kart on the SNES, internal Battery has died and no longer keeps saved files :(

Digital doesnt lose save files or wears over time so there are some very good benefits with it. Its why i love Steam, all my games from 15 years ago all still work and function only better due to updates etc.



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Azzanation said:
curl-6 said:

Yeah I still play my old consoles like my SNES and N64, so I certainly plan to be revisiting my Switch in another 20 years time, and I would like it if itand my games collection lasted til then, with proper care.

One small issue with that theory, Cartridges dont last forever where as Digital Media has no life span. I have 100s of cartridges from the NES, SNES and N64 and not all of them work due to them being worn out and deteriorating over time.

My Super Mario Kart on the SNES, internal Battery has died and no longer keeps saved files :(

Digital doesnt lose save files or wears over time so there are some very good benefits with it. Its why i love Steam, all my games from 15 years ago all still work and function only better due to updates etc.

Switch's internal storage and SD cards won't last forever either, and with digital I can't lend the game to someone, etc.



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Can't say that I am cut up about the delay since we are getting a true physical release now! I was set to pass on thus after the download-in-a-box announcement, but I am back on the day one train :)



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Azzanation said:
curl-6 said:

Yeah I still play my old consoles like my SNES and N64, so I certainly plan to be revisiting my Switch in another 20 years time, and I would like it if itand my games collection lasted til then, with proper care.

One small issue with that theory, Cartridges dont last forever where as Digital Media has no life span. I have 100s of cartridges from the NES, SNES and N64 and not all of them work due to them being worn out and deteriorating over time.

My Super Mario Kart on the SNES, internal Battery has died and no longer keeps saved files :(

Digital doesnt lose save files or wears over time so there are some very good benefits with it. Its why i love Steam, all my games from 15 years ago all still work and function only better due to updates etc.

The Switch's online system will be offline and the Switches NAND (Internal and MicroSD) will loose it's data long before the ROM carts start to exhibit any real issues. When that happens there is no way to recover your games.

Besides, the Switch carts are NOT the same as your old Gameboy carts, they don't have internal batteries and writable memory to save game data for example, there is fundamentally less that can go wrong with them.

In saying that, carts from old consoles can be opened up, internal battery replaced, it's actually a rather easy process... And those games can be resold for a small fortune these days.




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curl-6 said:

Switch's internal storage and SD cards won't last forever either, and with digital I can't lend the game to someone, etc.

Well of course, however if you plan on leading your games to someone you only risk the chances of your games being damaged. I learnt that the hard way. I still love collecting my favourite games however physical carries some pretty major issues especially if its heavily used and aged. Nothing last forever unless you are hoarding.

Pemalite said:

The Switch's online system will be offline and the Switches NAND (Internal and MicroSD) will loose it's data long before the ROM carts start to exhibit any real issues. When that happens there is no way to recover your games.

Besides, the Switch carts are NOT the same as your old Gameboy carts, they don't have internal batteries and writable memory to save game data for example, there is fundamentally less that can go wrong with them.

In saying that, carts from old consoles can be opened up, internal battery replaced, it's actually a rather easy process... And those games can be resold for a small fortune these days.

I don't disagree with you at all. The moral of the story is nothing last forever no matter which media option you choose. Digital media has some amazing benefits over physical where with digital it doesn't have a life span, you can run that media as many times as you want however with Disks and cartridges they do wear and tear over time and are at risks for damaged.

Mario Kart was just a simple example of things in the past that can happen, I don't plan on changing the battery as I don't really use it anymore. These days physical games require day one patches, downloading some parts of the game and online access to an account to play anyway so physical media isn't really that much better in that department either. It is extremely rare that a digital game gets taken down especially when you have brought it. You eliminate the issues that physical media has and only reducing it to one issue and that's the devs not taking it down. I am aware it happens however there are probably more people with problems with there physical games every day than a game being taken down from a storefront.

I do love collecting games for the boxes and cases however I am starting to lose interest with the lack of effort with including colourful detailed booklets of the games I buy. 



Azzanation said:

It is extremely rare that a digital game gets taken down especially when you have brought it. You eliminate the issues that physical media has and only reducing it to one issue and that's the devs not taking it down. I am aware it happens however there are probably more people with problems with there physical games every day than a game being taken down from a storefront.

Plenty of Digital games have been removed.

The entire online library for the Wii no longer exists.
The WiiU will likely get shut down in the next year or two.
The Original Xbox with it's Arcade titles don't exist. (I have been wanting to get Ricochet Infinity for the longest time!)
The Dreamcast online networks are down.

Desura (PC), Impulse/Gamestop Online (PC) have shut down.

The DSi store no longer exists.

And when licenses expire for games, they get removed from digital stores. I.E. I can't buy Naruto: The broken bond for Xbox 360 anymore, so the removal of digital games and digital platforms is actually a rather common occurrence, more than what people think.

But all my Physical media still works fine and still plays and I can still buy and trade them.



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