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Most likely best game on ps4

God Of War 15 24.19%
 
Spider Man 3 4.84%
 
Horizon Zero Dawn 6 9.68%
 
Sekiro 0 0%
 
Bloodbourne 3 4.84%
 
The last of Us Part 2 21 33.87%
 
Ghost Of Tsushima 2 3.23%
 
Cyberpunk 2077 1 1.61%
 
Red Dead Redemption 2 2 3.23%
 
FFVII Remake 9 14.52%
 
Total:62
DonFerrari said:
Keiji said:

I played on survivor. That was perfect. Including the infected.

"I played the game on easy, the game is to easy and AI didn`t seem to bright, garbage game".

It could be that. That's not the first time it happen on a game...



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Leynos said:

yes yes it was my tastes that made the AI in TLOU terrible of what I played. Yes it was my fault that walking all around some dude and the AI did nothing and when one of them did do something it was running right at me in a hallway like a Serious Sam game. It's the fault of liking Hardcore Mecha. Also my fault for designing a terrible sequence in a game with the Boat segment in Uncharted 3. Even tho that segment was universally hated.

I did not know to go into the mechanics of the game and not flaming others would make them so sensitive as if I insulted their mother. Yes, it's my fault for trying to have a discussion. It's my fault for not flaming him to get flamed. Gee sorry.

Well according to some here, yes, that would be your fault. There can be no negatives in Last of Us, if you experienced any shortcomings then it's simply your fault for not playing the game the correct way. I read that somewhere on this forum. Also very nice collection of a huge variety of types of PS4 games. But you dislike ND games so your opinion is less than worthless, as some have already told you lol. By the way your critique of LoU is fucking spot on. The stealth in that game is goddamn abysmal.



I admit I laughed. But to be serious. I played TLOU on PS3. It became one the 10 best game I have ever played. Then I played TLOU R on PS4, it was still as fantastic as it was the first time. Very few games have gave me this impression (StarCraft, Final Fantasy VII etc...).

But hey if you don't like the AI or else, you don't like it.  



LudicrousSpeed said:
Leynos said:

yes yes it was my tastes that made the AI in TLOU terrible of what I played. Yes it was my fault that walking all around some dude and the AI did nothing and when one of them did do something it was running right at me in a hallway like a Serious Sam game. It's the fault of liking Hardcore Mecha. Also my fault for designing a terrible sequence in a game with the Boat segment in Uncharted 3. Even tho that segment was universally hated.

I did not know to go into the mechanics of the game and not flaming others would make them so sensitive as if I insulted their mother. Yes, it's my fault for trying to have a discussion. It's my fault for not flaming him to get flamed. Gee sorry.

Well according to some here, yes, that would be your fault. There can be no negatives in Last of Us, if you experienced any shortcomings then it's simply your fault for not playing the game the correct way. I read that somewhere on this forum. Also very nice collection of a huge variety of types of PS4 games. But you dislike ND games so your opinion is less than worthless, as some have already told you lol. By the way your critique of LoU is fucking spot on. The stealth in that game is goddamn abysmal.

I try to give everything a chance. There have been games or genres even devs I wasn't a fan of before but I gave something a try and became a fan. My pallet is ever-expanding.  I love gaming as a whole. As a collector, my goal is always finding that next great experience for me. Some people get way too petty and offended something popular is not liked by someone. I have yet to try Pokemon as they do not appeal to me but similar games have. One day I might jump in.  I do like Sony systems (I even keep a Sony PockeStation in one of my PS1 systems) a lot but I hate the arrogance and toxic attitude Sony fans give off in my experience It's very similar to the toxicity of Boston sports fans. The ones that act like that, stop having their own personality. Just a mob. " You played it wrong, nothing is wrong, it's perfect, you're a joke" ...all over a video game. It's a mob mentality. I do not understand the arrogance. That type of attitude is like taking credit for something you had no part of. Like when a sports team wins a game. Fans say "We won!" Then becoming toxic to others not rooting for their team. Who's "we"?  You did nothing. I don't hate Naughty Dog or anything. I don't dislike them. Just indifferent atm but nothing for me is indefinite. Always willing to try and try again. Always willing to expand.

A most recent example of this to a much much greater extreme. Tales of Series.  I have no idea why but I tried so many games in that series. Each time I felt more disgusted than the last time. Then Vesperia Remaster came along. Holy shit that game is great! I loved it! I'm looking forward to Arise. Bulletstorm never looked all that appealing from its marketing but finally playing it. Not without its issues but it's a damn fun game. One of my fave FPS games, kinda felt like a mix of VanQuish mechanics with Serious Sam attitude. Same with Doom. Anyway sorry for the long post.



Bite my shiny metal cockpit!

Leynos said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

Well according to some here, yes, that would be your fault. There can be no negatives in Last of Us, if you experienced any shortcomings then it's simply your fault for not playing the game the correct way. I read that somewhere on this forum. Also very nice collection of a huge variety of types of PS4 games. But you dislike ND games so your opinion is less than worthless, as some have already told you lol. By the way your critique of LoU is fucking spot on. The stealth in that game is goddamn abysmal.

I try to give everything a chance. There have been games or genres even devs I wasn't a fan of before but I gave something a try and became a fan. My pallet is ever-expanding.  I love gaming as a whole. As a collector, my goal is always finding that next great experience for me. Some people get way too petty and offended something popular is not liked by someone. I have yet to try Pokemon as they do not appeal to me but similar games have. One day I might jump in.  I do like Sony systems (I even keep a Sony PockeStation in one of my PS1 systems) a lot but I hate the arrogance and toxic attitude Sony fans give off in my experience It's very similar to the toxicity of Boston sports fans. The ones that act like that, stop having their own personality. Just a mob. " You played it wrong, nothing is wrong, it's perfect, you're a joke" ...all over a video game. It's a mob mentality. I do not understand the arrogance. That type of attitude is like taking credit for something you had no part of. Like when a sports team wins a game. Fans say "We won!" Then becoming toxic to others not rooting for their team. Who's "we"?  You did nothing. I don't hate Naughty Dog or anything. I don't dislike them. Just indifferent atm but nothing for me is indefinite. Always willing to try and try again. Always willing to expand.

A most recent example of this to a much much greater extreme. Tales of Series.  I have no idea why but I tried so many games in that series. Each time I felt more disgusted than the last time. Then Vesperia Remaster came along. Holy shit that game is great! I loved it! I'm looking forward to Arise. Bulletstorm never looked all that appealing from its marketing but finally playing it. Not without its issues but it's a damn fun game. One of my fave FPS games, kinda felt like a mix of VanQuish mechanics with Serious Sam attitude. Same with Doom. Anyway sorry for the long post.

Before complaining about other people toxicity you may as well check your own.

You attacked the gameplay, AI and other aspects of a game playing on the mode that is made to be easy to regular JOE. Play the game on the hardest difficult and see if you have the same opinion of how hard it is and how the AI behaves.

Also when you send the image to prove you are a "Sony fan" there were only a single 1st party over there. So it really is a very reasonable conclusion that you don't like the 1st party in general, it isn't something specific to Naughty Dog. And again whenever you want to be extra harsh on something that is generally well liked you have to prepare for the backlash.

I don't personally like Halo (due to not liking FPS) nor Zelda (not sure why but never drained my attention), but I won't go there and criticize how the gameplay is bad, the lack of history or anything. I have zero need to prove that me not liking those games is justified.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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Imagine being called toxic just because you posted a simple honest opinion about a game and also posted a picture proving you collect many PS4 games. And no Don, he didn’t post the picture to prove he’s a “Sony guy” he posted it because someone childishly swept his valid opinion aside because he’s “more of a Nintendo guy”. So he posted the picture to prove he has plenty of PS4 taste.

It’s fucking dumb that you’d even feel the need to try and defend the nonsense in this thread. I guess the consoles launching soon have the console warriors in full battle ready status or something.



LudicrousSpeed said:
Imagine being called toxic just because you posted a simple honest opinion about a game and also posted a picture proving you collect many PS4 games. And no Don, he didn’t post the picture to prove he’s a “Sony guy” he posted it because someone childishly swept his valid opinion aside because he’s “more of a Nintendo guy”. So he posted the picture to prove he has plenty of PS4 taste.

It’s fucking dumb that you’d even feel the need to try and defend the nonsense in this thread. I guess the consoles launching soon have the console warriors in full battle ready status or something.

And how he having only a single PS4 1st party would prove he isn't more of a Nintendo guy?

Would it be like you complaining about Sony releasing less diverse games this gen so you can`t complain about these games selling little or more frequently saying how bad the 1st party games are?

And yet again you talking about others doing console war as if you weren`t one of the easiest recognizable warriors on the forum.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Oh wow. Sales2099 is back. I member the old days.

OT: Yea most if not all will be ported to PS5. Ghosts, Tlou, etc.



DonFerrari said:
LudicrousSpeed said:
Imagine being called toxic just because you posted a simple honest opinion about a game and also posted a picture proving you collect many PS4 games. And no Don, he didn’t post the picture to prove he’s a “Sony guy” he posted it because someone childishly swept his valid opinion aside because he’s “more of a Nintendo guy”. So he posted the picture to prove he has plenty of PS4 taste.

It’s fucking dumb that you’d even feel the need to try and defend the nonsense in this thread. I guess the consoles launching soon have the console warriors in full battle ready status or something.

And how he having only a single PS4 1st party would prove he isn't more of a Nintendo guy?

Would it be like you complaining about Sony releasing less diverse games this gen so you can`t complain about these games selling little or more frequently saying how bad the 1st party games are?

And yet again you talking about others doing console war as if you weren`t one of the easiest recognizable warriors on the forum.

I’m not going to bother defending him, he already shut that nonsense down with his picture of PS4 games. But what’s the going rate on how many first party PS4 titles you have to own before your opinion as a clearly unbiased gamer is valid and not simply thrown in the trash? Just curious. And speaking in general, of course.



LudicrousSpeed said:
DonFerrari said:

And how he having only a single PS4 1st party would prove he isn't more of a Nintendo guy?

Would it be like you complaining about Sony releasing less diverse games this gen so you can`t complain about these games selling little or more frequently saying how bad the 1st party games are?

And yet again you talking about others doing console war as if you weren`t one of the easiest recognizable warriors on the forum.

I’m not going to bother defending him, he already shut that nonsense down with his picture of PS4 games. But what’s the going rate on how many first party PS4 titles you have to own before your opinion as a clearly unbiased gamer is valid and not simply thrown in the trash? Just curious. And speaking in general, of course.

He can have whatever opinion he want, and no opinion is unbiased (but sure can be valid).

The point is he having several PS4 games but just one 1st party doesn't show he isn't a Nintendo first (which also isn't a problem) as you having a PS4 and several games doesn't make you not being a MS fan first.

The fact that he basically down own or like the first party games from Sony in general already prove he isn't a Sony fan, even if he could like the HW or control.

I do have X360 and more games for it than he have for PS4, still you call me fanboy, warmonger, etc strange isn't it?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."