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Forums - Sales Discussion - Playstation fans are the most brand loyal fan according to research, follow with Xbox fan, Nintendo and PC

DonFerrari on 06 February 2020
green_sky said:
Any stats on Nokia Ngage.

Or gamegear =p



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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RJTM1991 on 06 February 2020
HoangNhatAnh said:
RJTM1991 said:
Well, they are the most consistent.

With Xbox, their brand took a hit with the X1's dodgy launch and how poorly their PR team handled it. There's hardly and notable games on the system either, sadly.

Nintendo are incredible, but their audience seem to be more casual than anything else. I think the Wii U's poor run showed that.

And the vita didn't show that about Sony too?

One was a handheld, the other was a mainline console.



DonFerrari on 06 February 2020
RJTM1991 said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

And the vita didn't show that about Sony too?

One was a handheld, the other was a mainline console.

And I would say PSVita had more games than WiiU plus it was pushed a lot (in comparison to regular playstation) in Japan where HH done much better in the last couple gens.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

MasonADC on 06 February 2020
Cobretti2 said:
Nah that survey is wrong.

Nintendo fans are loyal. They the only crazy enough ones to buy a console for 1st party games only lol. Also look at second hand games market. Even the Wii with some 20million plus sale games, hardly saw them on second hand market. With the other two so many second hand copies of games that come out only a month prior.

Imagine if Sony lost all their 3rd party support to XBOX. How much of that crowd would swing towards XBOX?

I got a PS4 mainly for niche Japanese titles only, so I’m sure there are some people “crazy” enough to get a PS4/ Xbox for select third party titles alone 

Last edited by MasonADC - on 06 February 2020

Cobretti2 on 06 February 2020
MasonADC said:
Cobretti2 said:
Nah that survey is wrong.

Nintendo fans are loyal. They the only crazy enough ones to buy a console for 1st party games only lol. Also look at second hand games market. Even the Wii with some 20million plus sale games, hardly saw them on second hand market. With the other two so many second hand copies of games that come out only a month prior.

Imagine if Sony lost all their 3rd party support to XBOX. How much of that crowd would swing towards XBOX?

I got a PS4 mainly for niche Japanese titles only, so I’m sure there are some people “crazy” enough to get a PS4/ Xbox for select third party titles alone 

Absolutely every system has its loyal members no questions asked. However Nintendo has the most.

Hell look at the games we get. Same shit every gen from Nintendo IP wise and still buy, even if it isn't a big improvement over last gen. We don't sell out games as much. We collect them. We complain about all digital because we collect them lol. 



 

 

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curl-6 on 06 February 2020
DonFerrari said:
curl-6 said:

I'm a console slut in an open relationship with Nintendo.

They're my first choice as I adore their first party stuff, but I'll sleep around with Xbox and Playstation when they offer games that appeal to me; last gen for example I picked up a 360 to play games like Bioshock and Bayonetta that I was fascinated by but couldn't get on Wii.

You just want a bootycall with PS and Xbox you cheating Nintendo husband.

Nintendo is okay with it, just last night my Wii sat happily next to my PS3 and watched as I played Uncharted. They're all plugged into the same TV and power board in one big cable orgy.



sales2099 on 06 February 2020
DonFerrari said:
Well I doubt the validity of this survey.
I can certainly agree that Playstation have been able to retain its customer base much better than the other 2. But brand loyalty itself Nintendo almost certainly win, just look at the longeivity of their IPs.

Isn’t there a difference between brand loyal to a company and one to a game? People will love Mario today when they played it as a child in the 80s. Or myself loving Halo but I don’t believe Xbox is lumped in with it. Like I could play it in PC if I wanted. 

Imo Nintendo wins in terms of IP loyalty but Sony wins in company loyalty



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

HoangNhatAnh on 07 February 2020
RJTM1991 said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

And the vita didn't show that about Sony too?

One was a handheld, the other was a mainline console.

Talking about a brand, you have to mention every product of that company, suddenly vita don't count? Is there any Sony system could sell even 10 million with just 1st party games and indies/late ports like Wii U?

DonFerrari said:
RJTM1991 said:

One was a handheld, the other was a mainline console.

And I would say PSVita had more games than WiiU plus it was pushed a lot (in comparison to regular playstation) in Japan where HH done much better in the last couple gens.

More games and? Is there any vita games that sold more than 2 million? And if there is, how many of them?



DonFerrari on 07 February 2020
sales2099 said:
DonFerrari said:
Well I doubt the validity of this survey.
I can certainly agree that Playstation have been able to retain its customer base much better than the other 2. But brand loyalty itself Nintendo almost certainly win, just look at the longeivity of their IPs.

Isn’t there a difference between brand loyal to a company and one to a game? People will love Mario today when they played it as a child in the 80s. Or myself loving Halo but I don’t believe Xbox is lumped in with it. Like I could play it in PC if I wanted. 

Imo Nintendo wins in terms of IP loyalty but Sony wins in company loyalty

I would agree there is a difference.

But when people are loyal to like 4 or 5 different IPs from said company that for me would be loyalty to the brand even more that when people buy playstation isn`t really loyalty to Sony since it sell more 3rd party games than 1st party (it is slowly changing, but it is still much more for 3rd party content).

HoangNhatAnh said:
RJTM1991 said:

One was a handheld, the other was a mainline console.

Talking about a brand, you have to mention every product of that company, suddenly vita don't count? Is there any Sony system could sell even 10 million with just 1st party games and indies/late ports like Wii U?

DonFerrari said:

And I would say PSVita had more games than WiiU plus it was pushed a lot (in comparison to regular playstation) in Japan where HH done much better in the last couple gens.

More games and? Is there any vita games that sold more than 2 million? And if there is, how many of them?

I guess you missed his point on the loyalty.

The fact that WiiU with very few games managed to sell 15M and those games all had humungous  sales ratio show that Nintendo have like 15M diehard fans at least (and we know that there are many Nintendo loyals that didn`t bought WiiU). Plus the drop from PSP to PSVita is quite smaller than Wii to WiiU.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

LivingMetal on 07 February 2020
KrspaceT said:
I blame the fact that third parties can't support the Switch even if their business depended on them doing so.

Well apparently not since they are not doing it.