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Opinion: The Future Will Not About Hardware Platform (PC/COnsole/handled/Mobile ) but Ecosystem (service/software)

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I am still not onboard with this future 13 50.00%
 
Am I dreaming 2 7.69%
 
Are we ended up on weird reality 0 0.00%
 
I don't know how to accept this reality 3 11.54%
 
I don't want to change, i... 2 7.69%
 
I will quit gaming 6 23.08%
 
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SanAndreasX said:
I fucking hate games as a service. If this happens, I'm out.

Same and I'm starting to feel the repercussions now of movies moving to digital. Once upon a time in Holiday on blu-ray, won't be in stock until Februari 16th currently on Amazon. One of the biggest movie releases, not available??? What the hell. I'll wait though, I've got every Tarantino film on blu-ray, not switching to watching a streamed poor quality version now.



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RolStoppable said:

5. Regarding Microsoft, I don't think anyone doubts that they'll be more profitable without a console, because after almost 20 years in the console business, subscription models are about the only thing they have to show for it. Regarding Sony, what leads them to doing what they are doing is Microsoft's direction. If Sony allowed Microsoft to establish themselves as the leader in subscription services, then Sony's profits would eventually begin to suffer. The major players' assumption that streaming and the like is the future may all be wrong, but nevertheless it's what they believe in and that's why they go where they are going.

I don't think it's about streaming subs. Streaming games is a gimmick. Wii's waggle controls were more responsive. It's about game rental subs. It's also Sony's natural progression from the failure of putting Steam on PS3 and releasing a mid-gen upgrade alongside VR. If PC gamers refuse to go to Sony then Sony will have to go to them. It helps make MS's home console look even more redundant in comparison to going with PC. PC will have PC exclusives and multiplats, MS exclusives and delayed Sony exclusives. XB only has MS exclusives.

Also, a mid-gen slim model would be more popular with console casuals than a mid-gen Pro model especially since they have nothing to fear from a rival mid-gen upgrade from MS.

PS4 release (day 1) = Box Office
Streaming PS4 (day 1) = CAM pirate copy
PS4 rental sub (~1 year later) = Netflix/Amazon exclusive to PS4
PC/PS5 remaster (~3 years later) = Bluray Special Edition DVD
PC/PS5 remaster rental (~3.5 years later) = Exclusive to Sonyflix or PS5+EA Access/UPlay on PC

EA, MS, and Ubisoft keep their console game rental sub separate to their PC sub. Sony doesn't have a PC storefront so letting Steam and Epic handle sales makes sense. Once sales slow down, Sony would be better off selling rental exclusivity to EA, Ubi or MS to add to their PC sub instead of starting their own store/service from scratch with only 1 exclusive.

Once Sony has enough games ported, they can start their own PC store and rental service and leverage their console install base to take on Steam, Epic, MS, Ubi, EA and likely Activision too by then. They'll also be able to match MS and have same day PC release if the subscription wars heat up.



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xl-klaudkil said:
vivster said:

I'm talking of course about digital gamestores. And there are currently only 3 on this planet who force their customers to buy specific hardware for software that was coded with general purpose development tools.

Yes, not even gamestop is asshole enough to force specific hardware onto their customers.

This makes noo sense, your games on steam are also locked on your steam account and locked on pc hardware, same wirh epic game store, etc

There are about ten quadrillion different PC builds which include every possible combination of price, performance, design, portability and features. How many PS4, Switch or Xbox builds are there?

I don't mind software exclusivity as much as hardware exclusivity because at least software exclusivity gives you some choice, while hardware exclusivity gives you none. Imagine Netflix forcing you to watch their shows on just a single specific TV, or Spotify forcing you to listen to their music on a specific iphone. Yes, it's exactly that bad with consoles.



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Good. Fantastic. Gone will be the days of buying the same game multiple different times, because you wanted to play across multiple ecosystems (Mortal Kombat 11 & Tekken 7). Or, because the first time you bought the game on PS3, 12 years ago, it didn't have any extra modes, and you have to buy the game again on PC to get access to the complete version (Pixel Junk Monsters & Eufloria)

Today, I own every playstation, but I have to say, I'm not interested in buying a PS5. My PC could already run whatever game the PC will eventually get anyway. When you see new graphics cards come out every year, and you realize your 1080ti is 3 years old, why look forward to a new console when you can just get a new graphics card next year, and get even more performance out of it?

I already have a 3900x, upgraded from an 1800x just last year. I have no intention of getting a new card this year because i've been content with my 1080ti. But what's coming next year?

I'm even ok with the costs because im not paying 60 dollars for all my games... Usually between 40-50 dollars IF I get them pre-ordered. No PS+ subscription. And it's going into a computer. Which on it's own does more than a console can. It's a computer. You're not mining bitcoin (well no one is these days) on consoles. You're not doing your taxes, paying bills, or video editing (to an acceptable level), ETC on a console. Just the savings in games makes up for the price difference, but then you're getting so much more than a gaming machine.

Recently, with these threads popping up, I've been asking myself... WHY would I want a PS5?... Literally the only reason is to say, "I have all the playstation consoles."



The future will and always will be the battle of the eco-systems.



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vivster said:
xl-klaudkil said:

This makes noo sense, your games on steam are also locked on your steam account and locked on pc hardware, same wirh epic game store, etc

There are about ten quadrillion different PC builds which include every possible combination of price, performance, design, portability and features. How many PS4, Switch or Xbox builds are there?

I don't mind software exclusivity as much as hardware exclusivity because at least software exclusivity gives you some choice, while hardware exclusivity gives you none. Imagine Netflix forcing you to watch their shows on just a single specific TV, or Spotify forcing you to listen to their music on a specific iphone. Yes, it's exactly that bad with consoles.

And still its locked on pc hardware....so makes no sense .



 

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SvennoJ said:
SanAndreasX said:
I fucking hate games as a service. If this happens, I'm out.

Same and I'm starting to feel the repercussions now of movies moving to digital. Once upon a time in Holiday on blu-ray, won't be in stock until Februari 16th currently on Amazon. One of the biggest movie releases, not available??? What the hell. I'll wait though, I've got every Tarantino film on blu-ray, not switching to watching a streamed poor quality version now.

I've notice Amazon has been dropping the ball on blu rays, my copy of Joker arrived two days late, my copy of Parasite aint arriving until 30th which is two days after it comes out and my Brother's copy of the lighthouse showed a week and a half after he had ordered it.



Burning Typhoon said:
Good. Fantastic. Gone will be the days of buying the same game multiple different times, because you wanted to play across multiple ecosystems (Mortal Kombat 11 & Tekken 7). Or, because the first time you bought the game on PS3, 12 years ago, it didn't have any extra modes, and you have to buy the game again on PC to get access to the complete version (Pixel Junk Monsters & Eufloria)

Dark Souls Remastered? Do you need more examples of remastered games sold twice on PC?



Alcyon said:
Burning Typhoon said:
Good. Fantastic. Gone will be the days of buying the same game multiple different times, because you wanted to play across multiple ecosystems (Mortal Kombat 11 & Tekken 7). Or, because the first time you bought the game on PS3, 12 years ago, it didn't have any extra modes, and you have to buy the game again on PC to get access to the complete version (Pixel Junk Monsters & Eufloria)

Dark Souls Remastered? Do you need more examples of remastered games sold twice on PC?

Oh, no, I was just listing things specific to me and my own purchase history.  I have dark souls on PS3, and i might own it on PC as a free giveaway from one of those gaming services, but i really dont care about that game.