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xMetroid on 18 January 2020
curl-6 said:

PS4 seems to have returned to the slightly-below-200k baseline it held for a lot of last year. Interested to see where Switch and Xbone's baselines settle in the coming weeks.

xMetroid said:

Yeah I mean they could but at the same time they could increase the amount of software sales by lowering the price to attract a bigger audience. We'll see but even if it's doing well I dont think any console kept its launch price for 4 years that would be too much.

There's a first time for everything. :p Nobody does stubborn quite like Nintendo haha.

Yea that's true lmao



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Alcyon on 18 January 2020
xMetroid said:
curl-6 said:

I get the feeling Nintendo are gonna want to hang on to the $300 price point for as long as they can, didn't they say as much in a recent press thingie, or am I misremembering? Something about "increasing value in other ways" or something.

Yeah I mean they could but at the same time they could increase the amount of software sales by lowering the price to attract a bigger audience. We'll see but even if it's doing well I dont think any console kept its launch price for 4 years that would be too much.

They will probably cut the price just before or after the launch of the PS5/new XBox. For the games, the cartridges are more expensive than DVDs and they don't want to push the digital market by making them cheaper.



Nu-13 on 18 January 2020
Alcyon said:
xMetroid said:

Yeah I mean they could but at the same time they could increase the amount of software sales by lowering the price to attract a bigger audience. We'll see but even if it's doing well I dont think any console kept its launch price for 4 years that would be too much.

They will probably cut the price just before or after the launch of the PS5/new XBox. For the games, the cartridges are more expensive than DVDs and they don't want to push the digital market by making them cheaper.

The competition uses blurays and by now a 16gb cartridge costs he same as a 25gb bluray disc.



Barkley on 18 January 2020
Nu-13 said:
Alcyon said:

They will probably cut the price just before or after the launch of the PS5/new XBox. For the games, the cartridges are more expensive than DVDs and they don't want to push the digital market by making them cheaper.

The competition uses blurays and by now a 16gb cartridge costs he same as a 25gb bluray disc.

PS4/XBO blurays are 50gb, back in 2017 an 8gb card was about on par with the PS4's blurays in terms of costs. So yeah, by now hopefully costs have reduced and a 16gb is now about parity with the PS4/XBO's discs, though I've found literally no recent information about cartridge costs, so that's just speculation.



Nu-13 on 18 January 2020
Barkley said:
Nu-13 said:

The competition uses blurays and by now a 16gb cartridge costs he same as a 25gb bluray disc.

PS4/XBO blurays are 50gb, back in 2017 an 8gb card was about on par with the PS4's blurays in terms of costs. So yeah, by now hopefully costs have reduced and a 16gb is now about parity with the PS4/XBO's discs, though I've found literally no recent information about cartridge costs, so that's just speculation.

50gb are dual layered blu rays, more expensive than the standard 25gb.



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Bofferbrauer2 on 18 January 2020
Barkley said:
Nu-13 said:

The competition uses blurays and by now a 16gb cartridge costs he same as a 25gb bluray disc.

PS4/XBO blurays are 50gb, back in 2017 an 8gb card was about on par with the PS4's blurays in terms of costs. So yeah, by now hopefully costs have reduced and a 16gb is now about parity with the PS4/XBO's discs, though I've found literally no recent information about cartridge costs, so that's just speculation.

Considering how much the prices for Flash memory crashed down since late last year and the slowly increasing production prices for Blu-Ray (because less and less are being made), it's actually possible that 32GB cartridges are now costing about as much as a 50GB double-layered Blu-Ray Disc  amd the 16GB about as much as a standard Blu-Ray disc in production.



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Alcyon on 18 January 2020
Nu-13 said:
Alcyon said:

They will probably cut the price just before or after the launch of the PS5/new XBox. For the games, the cartridges are more expensive than DVDs and they don't want to push the digital market by making them cheaper.

The competition uses blurays and by now a 16gb cartridge costs he same as a 25gb bluray disc.

I was still half-asleep. Of course it was bluray vs cartridge.

And could you notice that a Switch Cartridge isn't a standard SD card? Also, the cost per Gigabyte is something like 4 cent for a Blu-Ray. A 16Gb SD card should cost less than a dollar to be on par. Then you add the cost of the case 'standard for a bluray, propretary for Nintendo), etc.

You are confusing SSD with SD Card. Also, the drop happened before 2017, you could buy a 64Gb SD Card for about 10 buck in 2017. The recent "crash" is for higher capacities

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Nu-13 on 18 January 2020
Alcyon said:
Nu-13 said:

The competition uses blurays and by now a 16gb cartridge costs he same as a 25gb bluray disc.

I was still half-asleep. Of course it was bluray vs cartridge.

And could you notice that a Switch Cartridge isn't a standard SD card? Also, the cost per Gigabyte is something like 4 cent for a Blu-Ray. A 16Gb SD card should cost less than a dollar to be on par. Then you add the cost of the case 'standard for a bluray, propretary for Nintendo), etc.

You are confusing SSD with SD Card. Also, the drop happened before 2017, you could buy a 64Gb SD Card for about 10 buck in 2017. The recent "crash" is for higher capacities

I didn't mention sd cards at any point.



ArchangelMadzz on 18 January 2020

Under 50k in january? Dayum.



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Alcyon on 18 January 2020
Nu-13 said:
Alcyon said:

I was still half-asleep. Of course it was bluray vs cartridge.

And could you notice that a Switch Cartridge isn't a standard SD card? Also, the cost per Gigabyte is something like 4 cent for a Blu-Ray. A 16Gb SD card should cost less than a dollar to be on par. Then you add the cost of the case 'standard for a bluray, propretary for Nintendo), etc.

You are confusing SSD with SD Card. Also, the drop happened before 2017, you could buy a 64Gb SD Card for about 10 buck in 2017. The recent "crash" is for higher capacities

I didn't mention sd cards at any point.

Ahh the good old "shit, I was wrong, let's point to something minor, so they don't notice that I was wrong". But what's funny is "a 16Gb cartridge costs the same as a 25Gb bluray" without any source "tiz iz tru becoz y sayd soh". I can buy a 25Gb bluray for about 1$, good luck with your flash memory at that price.