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Alcyon said:
Nu-13 said:

I didn't mention sd cards at any point.

Ahh the good old "shit, I was wrong, let's point to something minor, so they don't notice that I was wrong". But what's funny is "a 16Gb cartridge costs the same as a 25Gb bluray" without any source "tiz iz tru becoz y sayd soh". I can buy a 25Gb bluray for about 1$, good luck with your flash memory at that price.

I don't have any doubt about your intentions but I'll say anyway that we had reports of 8gb switch cartridges costing the same as a 25gb bluray at launch in 2017. It's been 3 years and those things get cheaper.



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Nu-13 said:
Alcyon said:

Ahh the good old "shit, I was wrong, let's point to something minor, so they don't notice that I was wrong". But what's funny is "a 16Gb cartridge costs the same as a 25Gb bluray" without any source "tiz iz tru becoz y sayd soh". I can buy a 25Gb bluray for about 1$, good luck with your flash memory at that price.

I don't have any doubt about your intentions but I'll say anyway that we had reports of 8gb switch cartridges costing the same as a 25gb bluray at launch in 2017. It's been 3 years and those things get cheaper.

No.... It was an 8gb cartridge giving the same profit margin as a PS4/xbo disc. So 50gb...



LTD: PS4 - 125m, Switch - 110m, XBO - 51m

2020: PS4 - 9m, Switch - 22.5m, XBO - 2.5m, PS5 - 4.5m, XBX - 2.8m

Barkley said:
Nu-13 said:

I don't have any doubt about your intentions but I'll say anyway that we had reports of 8gb switch cartridges costing the same as a 25gb bluray at launch in 2017. It's been 3 years and those things get cheaper.

No.... It was an 8gb cartridge giving the same profit margin as a PS4/xbo disc. So 50gb...

Bluray discs are 25gb and dual layered versions are 50gb. It's not that complicated. The same report said a 32gb cart was 60% more expensive than a 50gb bluray. The 16gb was probably in between but prices and must have gone down or are about to.

Last edited by Nu-13 - on 19 January 2020

Again, AGAIN, A-G-A-I-N, a Nintendo cartridge isn't a SD Card. You didn't mention SD card, but you are bringing the "price drop" when you are looking at .... SSD or SD Cards. The price isn't solely about the memory, you need to build to card itself (and a Nintendo cartridge isn't a standard format), a box (same story), etc.



Alcyon said:
Again, AGAIN, A-G-A-I-N, a Nintendo cartridge isn't a SD Card. You didn't mention SD card, but you are bringing the "price drop" when you are looking at .... SSD or SD Cards. The price isn't solely about the memory, you need to build to card itself (and a Nintendo cartridge isn't a standard format), a box (same story), etc.

You are the only one mentioning SD cards in any way, shape or form.



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Nu-13 said:
Alcyon said:
Again, AGAIN, A-G-A-I-N, a Nintendo cartridge isn't a SD Card. You didn't mention SD card, but you are bringing the "price drop" when you are looking at .... SSD or SD Cards. The price isn't solely about the memory, you need to build to card itself (and a Nintendo cartridge isn't a standard format), a box (same story), etc.

You are the only one mentioning SD cards in any way, shape or form.

I'll stop to feed the troll. Go figure why a nintendo cartridge isn't only a form of flash memory.

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Nu-13 said:
Barkley said:

No.... It was an 8gb cartridge giving the same profit margin as a PS4/xbo disc. So 50gb...

Bluray discs are 25gb and dual layered versions are 50gb. It's not that complicated.

Yes it's not.... PS4/XB1 Blu-Ray disc = Dual Layer.

"Your game needs to be less than 8GB if you want to make the same margin as PS4/XB1 Blu-Ray disc."

8gb = Dual Layer Blu-ray in 2017, not Single Layer as you wrongly said.



LTD: PS4 - 125m, Switch - 110m, XBO - 51m

2020: PS4 - 9m, Switch - 22.5m, XBO - 2.5m, PS5 - 4.5m, XBX - 2.8m

Barkley said:
Nu-13 said:

Bluray discs are 25gb and dual layered versions are 50gb. It's not that complicated.

Yes it's not.... PS4/XB1 Blu-Ray disc = Dual Layer.

"Your game needs to be less than 8GB if you want to make the same margin as PS4/XB1 Blu-Ray disc."

8gb = Dual Layer Blu-ray in 2017, not Single Layer as you wrongly said.

Prove it.



Nu-13 said:
Barkley said:

Yes it's not.... PS4/XB1 Blu-Ray disc = Dual Layer.

"Your game needs to be less than 8GB if you want to make the same margin as PS4/XB1 Blu-Ray disc."

8gb = Dual Layer Blu-ray in 2017, not Single Layer as you wrongly said.

Prove it.

Seconded. I find it totally hard to believe that the PS4 and XB1 use dual-layered Blu-ray discs as their standard. It makes no sense that they increased the capacity from one generation to the next.



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Nu-13 said:
Barkley said:

Yes it's not.... PS4/XB1 Blu-Ray disc = Dual Layer.

"Your game needs to be less than 8GB if you want to make the same margin as PS4/XB1 Blu-Ray disc."

8gb = Dual Layer Blu-ray in 2017, not Single Layer as you wrongly said.

Prove it.

How ironic that you're asking me to prove something when you yourself haven't posted a single shred of proof in this thread.

"16gb cartridge costs he same as a 25gb bluray disc." Zero evidence.

"we had reports of 8gb switch cartridges costing the same as a 25gb bluray at launch in 2017." Zero Evidence.

I've already posted a source, you've posted literally nothing and are asking me for proof?

The words are right there, in 2017 8GB = same margin as PS4/XB1 Blu-Ray Disc. In his previous tweet he directly specified he was talking about 50gb discs.

Try posting some evidence yourself instead of just making claims with nothing to back them up.



LTD: PS4 - 125m, Switch - 110m, XBO - 51m

2020: PS4 - 9m, Switch - 22.5m, XBO - 2.5m, PS5 - 4.5m, XBX - 2.8m