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No Sony, No E3. 16 17.39%
 
No Sony, yes E3. 30 32.61%
 
E3 is dead. 14 15.22%
 
E3 doesn't need it. 13 14.13%
 
E3 sucks anyway. 2 2.17%
 
PSX please! 8 8.70%
 
State of Play is the superior format. 2 2.17%
 
PS5 cancelled confirmed. 4 4.35%
 
But LoD will be there, right? 2 2.17%
 
Don't have an opinion, but love polls. 1 1.09%
 
Total:92

wow so last year it was half-empty cause Sony decided not to show. That's nuts; Or E3 is already a sinking ship and loosing attendees way before Sony decided not to participate.

Edit: We are in a new era now folks. We're in a time where we can absorb information in the comfort of our home. E3 is dead. 

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deskpro2k3 said:

wow so last year it was half-empty cause Sony decided not to show. That's nuts. lmao

I don't know that Sony leaving was a primary factor. I think it'd be more related to inconveniences for fans and journalists. For fans it could be the different day 1 or Day 3 passes. For journalists I heard Easy Allies talk about it and complain about some things, but right now I can't remember what they were, aside from how they had trouble getting from venue to venue. I think I recall Kyle Bossman saying that he decided to stay in his hotel room and watch a stream for at least one particular event.

But if other companies have similar issues with ESA as Sony seem to have, then we may see a domino effect and more prominent names could bow out in the next few years. EA skipped having a conference last year, which iirc was the first time in 10+ years they didn't have one.

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Hiku said:

But if other companies have similar issues with ESA as Sony seem to have, then we may see a domino effect and more prominent names could bow out in the next few years. EA skipped having a conference last year, which iirc was the first time in 10+ years they didn't have one.

EA had a 3 hour presentation last year a day before Microsoft went at E3.  They might not have shown up on the floor, but they certainly participated.

Frankly, I wouldn't mind if all the 3rd party presentations went away.  Get rid of EA, Ubisoft, Bethesda, and SquareEnix.  They're the one wasting probably millions of dollars on these huge presentations that end up being universally panned almost every year.



Hiku said:
deskpro2k3 said:

wow so last year it was half-empty cause Sony decided not to show. That's nuts. lmao

I don't know that Sony leaving was a primary factor. I think it'd be more related to inconveniences for fans and journalists. For fans it could be the different day 1 or Day 3 passes. For journalists I heard Easy Allies talk about it and complain about some things, but right now I can't remember what they were, aside from how they had trouble getting from venue to venue. I think I recall Kyle Bossman saying that he decided to stay in his hotel room and watch a stream for at least one particular event.

But if other companies have similar issues with ESA as Sony seem to have, then we may see a domino effect and more prominent names could bow out in the next few years. EA skipped having a conference last year, which iirc was the first time in 10+ years they didn't have one.

One of those may have been being doxxed.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanhatesthis/e3-leaked-2000-journalists-personal-info

"The Entertainment Software Association, which runs the E3 video game expo, was storing the names, addresses, emails, and phone numbers of over 2,000 attendees on a public page on their website. A copy of the list, viewed by BuzzFeed News, was archived on several popular message boards for trolls, and includes the home addresses of many reporters."

2,000 names, addresses (including home), e-mails and phone numbers released. Not just released but released on their own website in plain view.



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V-r0cK said:
Unfortunate for us but it still wont change the fact that the PS5 is still planned to launch end of this year at least.

E3 now just feels like an event for MS. Nintendo ditched first in favor of their Direct so I guess Sony wants to do it their way moving forward.

But Nintendo still have floor at e3. They also do competitions before e3 too like Splatoon, Smash, and super mario maker. 



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drkohler said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

 Surely they can afford to skip the biggest gaming event of they year when they are launching a new system?  Right?

Joke post?

2018/19 attendance numbers (from a ZhugeEX tweet):

Gamescom : 373k
ChinaJoy : 365k
Brazil Games Show : 325k
Taipei Game Show : 320k
Paris Games Week : 316k
Tokyo Game Show : 262k
G-Star Korea : 235k
......

E3 : 66k

For US, E3 might be everything, for the rest of the world (where Sony sells the most of its consoles), it is almost irrelevant. E3 money is better spent elsewheres.

Those are just attendance. How about viewers for live streams/ Conference/ directs? Maybe if they make it cheaper more people will come



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DonFerrari said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

E3 has that kind of attendence, because the event is intentionally made exclusive.  Again, this is a lot like saying the Oscars are not a major event, because it is mostly just Hollywood types attending.  Meanwhile, about 30m people watch the Oscars live and countless more watch highlights, red carpet footage and other similar stuff.  It is the biggest event of the year for the movie industry, because of all the eyeballs drawn in.  The actual attendance doesn't matter as much.

I did a quick Youtube search for highlights of E3, Gamescom and Tokyo Game Show in 2018.  The highest results that came up were

E3 - 1300k
Gamescom - 79k
Tokyo Game Show - 59k

Clearly E3 is the biggest gaming event, worldwide, by a huge margin.

You know that validates the excuse for Sony not going right?

If they dropping the Logo on CES (non-gaming event) get twice as much hype than MS revealing the console at a gaming related event.

So whatever they do will still get coverage, but yes do some joke on it.

Besides, congrats on "prove my point with a quick google search, that is all the evidence you need".

Over a million people would watch Sony conference at e3. Why would they not do one? If they want to save money they can do a direct like nintendo. Maybe they can even have no showfloor and just do a direct. 



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deskpro2k3 said:

wow so last year it was half-empty cause Sony decided not to show. That's nuts; Or E3 is already a sinking ship and loosing attendees way before Sony decided not to participate.

Edit: We are in a new era now folks. We're in a time where we can absorb information in the comfort of our home. E3 is dead. 

E3 never had big attendance in the first place. More of its exposure is from the viewers at home. Im pretty sure no other viewership in terms of gaming can beat e3. 



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NightlyPoe said:
Hiku said:

But if other companies have similar issues with ESA as Sony seem to have, then we may see a domino effect and more prominent names could bow out in the next few years. EA skipped having a conference last year, which iirc was the first time in 10+ years they didn't have one.

EA had a 3 hour presentation last year a day before Microsoft went at E3.  They might not have shown up on the floor, but they certainly participated.

Frankly, I wouldn't mind if all the 3rd party presentations went away.  Get rid of EA, Ubisoft, Bethesda, and SquareEnix.  They're the one wasting probably millions of dollars on these huge presentations that end up being universally panned almost every year.

The article in the OP stated;

"However, E3 organiser the ESA has struggled to satisfy all of its members who have been split over what they want the show to be. Some publishers such as EA and Sony want to see E3 become a fan celebration of games, whereas others would rather the event remained an industry-focused affair."

I don't know where the info regarding EA's stance on this comes from.
It may be a coincidence that both companies stated to have this issue with ESA decided to not have a press conference last year for the first time. If not, it's worth keeping an eye on.

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Jranation said:
deskpro2k3 said:

wow so last year it was half-empty cause Sony decided not to show. That's nuts; Or E3 is already a sinking ship and loosing attendees way before Sony decided not to participate.

Edit: We are in a new era now folks. We're in a time where we can absorb information in the comfort of our home. E3 is dead. 

E3 never had big attendance in the first place. More of its exposure is from the viewers at home. Im pretty sure no other viewership in terms of gaming can beat e3. 

You can't say that in 1998 where there was no YouTube or Twitch, or in the last 10 yrs.

If people rather watch from home then companies are better off doing their own direct or experience. E3 is a sinking ship. It's deaded.