Conina said:
goopy20 said:
I know the mid-gen consoles weren't a next gen leap, but neither are cross-gen games. With a next gen comes a ton of cross-gen games and the promise of new games and experiences, but MS can't promise anything if they have nothing to show.
How do you know that Microsoft can't promise new games and experiences at the E3 2020, Games Awards 2020, E3 2021 and Games Awards 2021?
They can show previews of their first-party "true next gen" games/experiences, which will be released after their crossgen-transition-window (and their now have much more studios to develop them than 7 years before).
They can show a lot of third-party "true next gen" games/experiences, which will probably look better on XSX than on PS5. (some of them will be released within the crossgen-transition-window which doesn't constrain third parties).
If MS's goal was to push Series X consoles they could have just said nothing at all about the 2 years of cross gen thing and talked more about what kind of amazing next gen exclusives they have in the pipeline instead.
Why should they keep their customers/fan in the dark about their release strategy? Why is keeping up uncertainty a good thing?
Sony promises next gen games by actually showing them.
Nevertheless they showed not a single "true next gen" games/experiences so far. And they won't be at E3 2020.
In 2014 they were already showing off Uncharted 4, The Order 1886, No Man's Sky, Bloodborne, HZD, FF7 remake etc. Sure, you can say Sony shows off their games way too early, but it's the promise of games like that that'll get people to migrate. Not the cross gen games, which people will still buy but it's not the main reason why they;ll buy a new console.
We can continue the discussion after they showed their "true next gen" games/experiences for 2020 - 2022. At this point it doesn't make sense.
And no the AAA 3rd party games don't end up on GP early. The games on GP are either older games that are already in the bargain bin, games that bombed and MS's exclusives, which are obviously the main draw.
Metro Exodus? Shadow of the Tomb Raider? RAGE 2? Wolfenstein Youngblood? The Outer Worlds? A Plague Tale? Life is Strange 2? Devil May Cry 5? Just Cause 4? Kingdom Hearts 3?
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MS doesn't have full blown exclusives to show off early because they're probably not even in development. MS's focus going into next gen is building GP subscribers, and not pushing Series X sales and making games for it that hardly anyone will be able to play on GP for the first couple of years. I'm sure they will have some cryptic cgi trailers with some logo's but I don't think they will show gameplay footage of a true next gen Gears for example.
There will obviously be a ton of 3rd party games but remember how they always do that during the launch of next gen consoles? People get all excited until they see it's also coming to previous gen, which is always disappointing. It's one of those things that nobody wants to hear and it usually takes at least 1 or 2 years before we start to see most AAA 3rd party games skipping current gen. That's why early on, it was gameplay of games like the Order 1886, Infamous, Driveclub, Shadowfal, Ryse, Forza5 that created excitement for next gen. Sure, they didn't exactly deliver but they were still a great promotional tool get people excited about next gen and took up a big chunk of Sony's E3 presence.
We will see what kind of games will be on GP. Right now it seems like a good way for developers to get people to notice their games that didn't sell well in the hope they'll buy their other games or DLC. Shadow of the tombraider for example has been pulled from GP, while Rise of the Tombraider is still there. Fact remains that MS's 1st party exclusives are the main draw.
Yes, I do think it's a good thing that MS isn't keeping people in the dark about their next gen strategy. They've been pretty open about not caring how many Series X's they'll sell, not having Series X exclusives and their cross gen strategy with GP and Xcloud later on. So why are we still arguing about it like they never said any of those things?
It's a bummer that we still haven't heard anything from Sony but it's pretty save to say that they'll do what they've always been doing. They won't say all their exclusives will be cross gen for the first 2 years, bring them to psnow and pc from day one and limit developers just so that ps4 owners and the average pc gamer can still play them. They'll do a complete reset and will do whatever they can to get people excited about the new tech and "force" them to migrate asap. Meaning they will announce a tolarable price of $499 max, show some launch ps5 exclusives and then get a standing ovation by saying they're all about the games as they show glimpses of true next gen exclusives like HZD2, Spiderman, GT7 a new ND/SM game and whatnot.