We already went over this man. But ok, true next gen games don't mean they are fantastic with totally new gameplay by default. It simply means they do things that wouldn't be possible on current gen. Now, I agree that it's not always obvious why a game wouldn't work on previous gen but that has to do with how talented the developers are and how they decide to use the extra horsepower. But is it really that hard to phantom that things like the SSD could be a game changer for overall level design and we could be seeing completely different gaming experiences? I mean something like Apex Legends wouldn't exist if it also had to run on ps3/360 and there's a reason why there is no Monster Hunter World on the Switch.  

A Game that's build from the ground up around next gen tech is something entirely different than having the exact same game running in 60fps and native 4k on next gen and lower settings on current gen. Multiplatform games are designed to give the exact same gameplay experience across all platforms and the base platform is always the weakest console. That's why pc gamers were pissed when something like Crysis went multiplatform and was dramatically reduced in scale. And why a ps5 or Series X exclusive should be a lot more impressive than a cross gen title. Of course, Halo Infinite will look and run better on the Series X, but it will be like Halo 5 on X1 vs Halo 5 on X1X and not a totally different experience. 

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Your Halo 5 comment made me jump back in. Xbox One to Xbox X is NOT the same as Xbox One to Series X. The draw distance, Poly counts, FPS, resolution, texture quality/load, loading times, enemy AI, lighting etc etc will be so vast you would be blind to not call Halo Infinite on Series X a next gen game. 

“It simply means they do things that wouldn't be possible on current gen”. Your words. Halo Infinite is a next gen game once you see the vast differences with base Xbox One. 

And let’s say you are correct and the cross gen games hold back the Series X versions.....who cares if these games turn out to be 90 metacritic games and system sellers? 

You really need to get out of your bubble. The average gamer responds to quality games. Early adopters simply want the latest thing. Quality always speaks louder then whatever you are pretending to care about. 

And before you know it, 2 years is up and you can drop this clearly pretend concern for Xbox gamers. 

The Witcher 3 might be on the Switch and so is Fortnite. Then again, you can also play Fortnite on a iPhone. The vast majority of multiplatform games aren't on Switch, though. Including Monster Hunter World, a game that has always been a typical Nintendo franchise. So you ask yourself why that is? Also, Switch is a bit of a different situation as it's a handheld. Try playing a Switch game that had to be scaled down to 540p on a 55 inch tv and you tell me if that smudge of a game is still playable. 

And no, Halo Infinite won't have better enemy ai, geometry etc. on the Series X. I mean will TLOU2 and Ghost of Tsushima have better ai because they will be on ps5 as well? Of course not, they will be enhanced but they won't change core gameplay mechanics from one platform to the next. That's the whole point lol.

I know MS sometimes develops their games for next gen and then port it to previous gen, like with Forza Horizon 2 (which is also the only game I can think of). But that was a X1 game first, developed by Playground, and they outsourced the 360 version to a different developer using the old engine and assets. 343 Studios isn't making Halo Infinite for the Series X, they are making it for the X1. And it will probably look similar to Halo 5 in scope and visual fidelity, with just some enhancements on Series X. 

Oh wow I forgot about the mobile Fortnite. So by your logic they must have made Fortnite BR with cell phone power in mind and then just spruced up the graphics for consoles. Imagine how much more advanced it could be!

You just keep making my point for me. And yeah, you’ve posted your optimism for Halo Infinite already.

I'm just stating facts here buddy. Apex Legends and a ton of multiplatform games simply can't be scaled down and ported to the Switch. And Halo Infinite will be an X1 game...

The game will be released alongside a new Xbox One-compatible console known as Xbox Series X. Although initially implicated to be exclusive to the console, the franchise's development director Frank O'Connor stated in August 2019 that Infinite was being developed for Xbox One title and that they were "building it so it plays and looks fantastic" on the platform, but suggested that it would have enhancements when played on Xbox Series X.[22] In January 2020, Xbox Game Studios head Matt Booty additionally confirmed that the studio had no immediate plans for Xbox Series X exclusives on-launch, preferring to phase out compatibility with older hardware over a longer-term period similar to PCs.

Sony and MS will simply have different approaches next gen and which one is better depends if you're planning on buying a next gen console at launch or not. I just find it weird that, after getting an ass whoopin of biblical proportions this gen, MS doesn't just pretend this gen never happened and rush into next gen by showcasing the superior graphics of the Series X.

The Witcher 3 might be on the Switch and so is Fortnite. Then again, you can also play Fortnite on a iPhone. The vast majority of multiplatform games aren't on Switch, though. Including Monster Hunter World, a game that has always been a typical Nintendo franchise. So you ask yourself why that is? Also, Switch is a bit of a different situation as it's a handheld. Try playing a Switch game that had to be scaled down to 540p on a 55 inch tv and you tell me if that smudge of a game is still playable. 

And no, Halo Infinite won't have better enemy ai, geometry etc. on the Series X. I mean will TLOU2 and Ghost of Tsushima have better ai because they will be on ps5 as well? Of course not, they will be enhanced but they won't change core gameplay mechanics from one platform to the next. That's the whole point lol.

I know MS sometimes develops their games for next gen and then port it to previous gen, like with Forza Horizon 2 (which is also the only game I can think of). But that was a X1 game first, developed by Playground, and they outsourced the 360 version to a different developer using the old engine and assets. 343 Studios isn't making Halo Infinite for the Series X, they are making it for the X1. And it will probably look similar to Halo 5 in scope and visual fidelity, with just some enhancements on Series X. 

If Fortnite and Witcher can be scaled down, do you really think Apex Legends can't be? It's not even as advanced as Fortnite and has less players. It's an EA title though, so it won't be coming to Switch. Until it does!

I mean, you can continue to post your most optimistic expectations for Halo and other launch window titles, it won't change history or logic. And what Sony's approach is or isn't doesn't really matter, you've shown in this thread that if Sony were to do exactly what MS is going, you wouldn't have a problem with it and would enjoy the "true next gen PS5 games" lol

Sure buddy, Apex Legends is not on Switch because of EA... In any case, I'm pretty excited about these next gen consoles and what they can do. I just think MS is making a terrible mistake by choosing this route, is all. But hey, maybe I'm wrong as you seem to be fine with playing higher res versions of the exact same games we have now, till 2023.  

I'm just stating facts here buddy. Apex Legends and a ton of multiplatform games simply can't be scaled down and ported to the Switch. And Halo Infinite will be an X1 game...

The game will be released alongside a new Xbox One-compatible console known as Xbox Series X. Although initially implicated to be exclusive to the console, the franchise's development director Frank O'Connor stated in August 2019 that Infinite was being developed for Xbox One title and that they were "building it so it plays and looks fantastic" on the platform, but suggested that it would have enhancements when played on Xbox Series X.[22] In January 2020, Xbox Game Studios head Matt Booty additionally confirmed that the studio had no immediate plans for Xbox Series X exclusives on-launch, preferring to phase out compatibility with older hardware over a longer-term period similar to PCs.

Sony and MS will simply have different approaches next gen and which one is better depends if you're planning on buying a next gen console at launch or not. I just find it weird that, after getting an ass whoopin of biblical proportions this gen, MS doesn't just pretend this gen never happened and rush into next gen by showcasing the superior graphics of the Series X.