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After a disastrous launch Xbox One has sold quite well in America, all things considered. Odds of the XSX outselling the PS5 in the USA are high.



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trunkswd said:
curl-6 said:

In terms of percentage, pretty sure those two are unparalleled. In terms of raw numbers, PS3 fell by 70 million from PS2, which is more than PSP to Vita.

Thinking about it, the DS to 3DS drop is probably the biggest when you look at the raw numbers. 

Yeah, that one's a drop of 80 million. Yowch.

If there's one thing that's been demonstrated many times in this industry, it's that great success or miserable failure is never a guarantee the successor will follow the same path.



curl-6 said:
trunkswd said:

Thinking about it, the DS to 3DS drop is probably the biggest when you look at the raw numbers. 

Yeah, that one's a drop of 80 million. Yowch.

If there's one thing that's been demonstrated many times in this industry, it's that great success or miserable failure is never a guarantee the successor will follow the same path.

Yeah, agreed. Just look at the GameCube to Wii to Wii U to Switch. Or Xbox to Xbox 360 to Xbox One. 



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p0isonparadise said:
After a disastrous launch Xbox One has sold quite well in America, all things considered. Odds of the XSX outselling the PS5 in the USA are high.

I dunno, it seems a bit early to call that, especially with XSX already repeating Xbone's critical mistake of having no exclusives.



curl-6 said:
p0isonparadise said:
After a disastrous launch Xbox One has sold quite well in America, all things considered. Odds of the XSX outselling the PS5 in the USA are high.

I dunno, it seems a bit early to call that, especially with XSX already repeating Xbone's critical mistake of having no exclusives.

Definitely too early. Let's let these things even release before proclaiming victories (though I think EU and Japan are very likely to sway Sony again). NA, on the other hand, is a constant swinging pendulum and trying to call it now is pointless.



                                                                                                             

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CGI-Quality said:
curl-6 said:

I dunno, it seems a bit early to call that, especially with XSX already repeating Xbone's critical mistake of having no exclusives.

Definitely too early. Let's let these things even release before proclaiming victories (though I think EU and Japan are very likely to sway Sony again). NA, on the other hand, is a constant swinging pendulum and trying to call it now is pointless.

Yeah NA is definitely the most exciting region in that respect. And yeah, at this stage there's just so much we don't know, what they'll cost, what games they will have, etc.



curl-6 said:
p0isonparadise said:
After a disastrous launch Xbox One has sold quite well in America, all things considered. Odds of the XSX outselling the PS5 in the USA are high.

I dunno, it seems a bit early to call that, especially with XSX already repeating Xbone's critical mistake of having no exclusives.

I didn't call anything. As of right now, I think odds are in favor of XSX. This could change if Microsoft goes mental and prices XSX at $600 while the PS5 is in the $400-$500 range. 

You put too much stock in Xbox's lack of exclusives. Xbox (and PS) live off of AAA third-party support so as long as they get those games they'll be fine. Especially if Microsoft positions XSX as the console of choice when it comes to those types games (GamePass will help).

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p0isonparadise said:
curl-6 said:

I dunno, it seems a bit early to call that, especially with XSX already repeating Xbone's critical mistake of having no exclusives.

I didn't call anything. As of right now, I think odds are in favor of XSX. This could change if Microsoft goes mental and prices XSX at $600 while the PS5 is in the $400-$500 range. 

You put too much stock in Xbox's lack of exclusives. Xbox (and PS) live off of AAA third-party support so as long as they get those games they'll be fine. Especially if Microsoft positions XSX as the console of choice when it comes to those types games (GamePass will help).

Saying what you said is making a prediction. That's fine to do so, but we simply think it is too early to make some of those calls. Without a line-up, release date, or price, it's throwing honey hoping it will stick to something. Some of those very same proclamations were made at the beginning of this gen and that's why it makes more sense to wait until things have begun to happen.



                                                                                                             

p0isonparadise said:
curl-6 said:

I dunno, it seems a bit early to call that, especially with XSX already repeating Xbone's critical mistake of having no exclusives.

I didn't call anything. As of right now, I think odds are in favor of XSX. This could change if Microsoft goes mental and prices XSX at $600 while the PS5 is in the $400-$500 range. 

You put too much stock in Xbox's lack of exclusives. Xbox (and PS) live off of AAA third-party support so as long as they get those games they'll be fine. Especially if Microsoft positions XSX as the console of choice when it comes to those types games (GamePass will help).

You made a prediction, which is fine, it's just that we don't even know how much XSX or PS5 will cost or how their libraries will shape up so at this point I'd say projecting an XSX win in America is premature in my humble opinion.



CGI-Quality said:
p0isonparadise said:

I didn't call anything. As of right now, I think odds are in favor of XSX. This could change if Microsoft goes mental and prices XSX at $600 while the PS5 is in the $400-$500 range. 

You put too much stock in Xbox's lack of exclusives. Xbox (and PS) live off of AAA third-party support so as long as they get those games they'll be fine. Especially if Microsoft positions XSX as the console of choice when it comes to those types games (GamePass will help).

Saying what you said is making a prediction. That's fine to do so, but we simply think it is too early to make some of those calls. Without a line-up, release date, or price, it's throwing honey hoping it will stick to something. Some of those very same proclamations were made at the beginning of this gen and that's why it makes more sense to wait until things have begun to happen.

curl-6 said:

You made a prediction, which is fine, it's just that we don't even know how much XSX or PS5 will cost or how their libraries will shape up so at this point I'd say projecting an XSX win in America is premature in my humble opinion.

Talking about the probability of something to happen isn't the same thing as making a prediction. Considering that the Xbox One is only ~5m behind the PS4 despite all the fumbles that Microsoft committed, an XSX that is equally priced to the PS5 has a higher chance to beat the PS5 than vice versa. The statement and reasoning are completely sound.



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