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What will the new Switch model be?

Switch 2 4 5.80%
 
Switch Pro 33 47.83%
 
Switch XL 6 8.70%
 
Switch TV 9 13.04%
 
Switch Mini (clamshell) 0 0%
 
Something else 6 8.70%
 
No new SKU in 2020 11 15.94%
 
Total:69
Nu-13 said:
Soundwave said:

Pretty sure Nintendo was 100% aware of what they were doing on the Switch Lite not being dockable and gave zero fucks that a small group on the internet was upset about it. 

Business is business. You want a Switch that plays on TV and you can pay $300 for that just like everyone else does. 

Business is business and the lite was terrible business. The definition of wasted potential.

They're making money from it. You want the full TV + road play experience, then you can pony up $300, there's no $200 freebies Nintendo is entitled to give away to cheapos. 



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I believe the Switch Pro may be a stand-alone VR device, that also play games on TV (no handheld)
I think there are some hints pointing to it, plus it wold make much sense for the business.
I actually wanted to make a thread about it but I've been to busy. Maybe I will elaborate better later.

Last edited by freebs2 - on 06 January 2020

The other thing is a $349.99 or $399.99 Switch SKU would be very lucrative for Nintendo.



Ck1x said:
Slownenberg said:

No. that ain't gonna happen. There is no reason for Nintendo to try to confuse the market. A pro version of the Switch I'm sure would have better specs but not by like double, and not to make it so you could only play games when the OG Switch is plugged in. That sounds horrendous. A pro Switch should just deliver a premium experience, which means games that run slow don't run slow anymore, or games that would run at say 720p or 900p docked get to run in 1080p docked instead. Something like that.

I think a premium experience of the Switch would be:

More performance to make games run smoother or higher res (no splintering userbase)

Larger screen the eliminates the dead space in the current model

More disk space

more scratch resistant screen, maybe better kickstand

bluetooth so you can use wireless headphones

The above things seem like something that would be worth coming out with a premium version of the Switch for $50 more than OG Switch, and maybe even eventually eliminating the original, like 3DS did, so that Nintendo keeps the higher price point into the future, and the Lite remains the low price point, so people who want to "Switch" have to get the most expensive but better (than the original) version. Even if off the bat this new version made less profit than the original, they could market it as a better Switch as so keep the price high for longer and therefore make more profit long term.

Did people say all of this before PS4 Pro and XboxOne X?

For some reason it seems as though we act like iterative hardware is some new uncharted waters. So if a Switch Pro is coming out soon and say it's theoretically on par with base PS4, do we expect that next-gen consoles will come and developers will magically forget 150+ million PS4 and Xbox owners? Both of these systems will still receive some kind of crossover support just like generation before them for a couple of years.

People aren't even looking at this from the other perspective. What if the Switch Pro launches (way more powerful than current model) and starts getting lots of other AAA 3rd party games day and date with PS5 and Series X because of better parity. That could bode much better for the current Switch systems out there, because there are clearly plenty of port house studios that would definitely stay extra busy porting the OG Switch version, even if its 3-6 months later(which is already pretty much happening with current Switch versions).

Did people say all of what before PS4 Pro and Xb1X? Those systems were made to play games in 4k. They don't play different games than the base versions of those systems, or make the base versions obsolete for certain games unless you get some peripheral. They are purely for people who want to play in 4k. No user base splintering or confusing cheap marketing gimmicks to make games that can play in 4k be able to be played not in 4k.

Iterative hardware is totally not uncharted waters. Nintendo portable systems (i guess except a little bit with Game Boy Color) have never been splintered into certain games working with certain versions, and having to buy random peripherals to get the games to work with other versions. All versions of 3DS play the same games except for apparently like 2 to 5 games. New 3DS wasn't launched to make 3DS owners obsolete and get more downgraded ports of more powerful systems.

What you are describing in a Switch Pro (a much more powerful system) is a Switch 2. Also you are saying that next gen games will somehow be ported to the original Switch if there is a much more powerful new version of the Switch that splinters the userbase because somehow despite not getting much in the way of ports from PS4/Xb1 it will somehow get ports from newer far more powerful systems. So a new portable system will be strong enough to get ports from new games of also brand new home consoles and therefore those same next gen home console games will get ported to an older portable system....just because....in this theoretical world power differences mean nothing and suddenly this year portable systems will be on par with home consoles released the same year and magically those games will transfer down to less powerful older portable systems?

Like seriously your post has zero logic in it. No offense. Just wishful fairy and dreams type thinking not based in physical reality.



Slownenberg said:
Ck1x said:

Did people say all of this before PS4 Pro and XboxOne X?

For some reason it seems as though we act like iterative hardware is some new uncharted waters. So if a Switch Pro is coming out soon and say it's theoretically on par with base PS4, do we expect that next-gen consoles will come and developers will magically forget 150+ million PS4 and Xbox owners? Both of these systems will still receive some kind of crossover support just like generation before them for a couple of years.

People aren't even looking at this from the other perspective. What if the Switch Pro launches (way more powerful than current model) and starts getting lots of other AAA 3rd party games day and date with PS5 and Series X because of better parity. That could bode much better for the current Switch systems out there, because there are clearly plenty of port house studios that would definitely stay extra busy porting the OG Switch version, even if its 3-6 months later(which is already pretty much happening with current Switch versions).

Did people say all of what before PS4 Pro and Xb1X? Those systems were made to play games in 4k. They don't play different games than the base versions of those systems, or make the base versions obsolete for certain games unless you get some peripheral. They are purely for people who want to play in 4k. No user base splintering or confusing cheap marketing gimmicks to make games that can play in 4k be able to be played not in 4k.

Iterative hardware is totally not uncharted waters. Nintendo portable systems (i guess except a little bit with Game Boy Color) have never been splintered into certain games working with certain versions, and having to buy random peripherals to get the games to work with other versions. All versions of 3DS play the same games except for apparently like 2 to 5 games. New 3DS wasn't launched to make 3DS owners obsolete and get more downgraded ports of more powerful systems.

What you are describing in a Switch Pro (a much more powerful system) is a Switch 2. Also you are saying that next gen games will somehow be ported to the original Switch if there is a much more powerful new version of the Switch that splinters the userbase because somehow despite not getting much in the way of ports from PS4/Xb1 it will somehow get ports from newer far more powerful systems. So a new portable system will be strong enough to get ports from new games of also brand new home consoles and therefore those same next gen home console games will get ported to an older portable system....just because....in this theoretical world power differences mean nothing and suddenly this year portable systems will be on par with home consoles released the same year and magically those games will transfer down to less powerful older portable systems?

Like seriously your post has zero logic in it. No offense. Just wishful fairy and dreams type thinking not based in physical reality.

If anything it's people who are obsessive compulsive about hardware linearity that have been proven wrong quite a bit. 

Portable only Switch that doesn't Switch couldn't happen because issues. 

PS4 Pro and XB1X when first rumored, you had a bunch of people saying you can't do that because that hasn't been done before. 

2DS version of the 3DS can't happen. 

Etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

If anything, these companies have shown they don't give a shit what a whiny small portion of the fanbase thinks just because they are obsessed with some stupid notion of brand uniformity. 

A pro model would certainly make Nintendo a lot of money, just like pro models have made Sony and MS a lot of money. 

If you got to break an egg or two to make an omelette, so be it. 



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Soundwave said:
Slownenberg said:

Did people say all of what before PS4 Pro and Xb1X? Those systems were made to play games in 4k. They don't play different games than the base versions of those systems, or make the base versions obsolete for certain games unless you get some peripheral. They are purely for people who want to play in 4k. No user base splintering or confusing cheap marketing gimmicks to make games that can play in 4k be able to be played not in 4k.

Iterative hardware is totally not uncharted waters. Nintendo portable systems (i guess except a little bit with Game Boy Color) have never been splintered into certain games working with certain versions, and having to buy random peripherals to get the games to work with other versions. All versions of 3DS play the same games except for apparently like 2 to 5 games. New 3DS wasn't launched to make 3DS owners obsolete and get more downgraded ports of more powerful systems.

What you are describing in a Switch Pro (a much more powerful system) is a Switch 2. Also you are saying that next gen games will somehow be ported to the original Switch if there is a much more powerful new version of the Switch that splinters the userbase because somehow despite not getting much in the way of ports from PS4/Xb1 it will somehow get ports from newer far more powerful systems. So a new portable system will be strong enough to get ports from new games of also brand new home consoles and therefore those same next gen home console games will get ported to an older portable system....just because....in this theoretical world power differences mean nothing and suddenly this year portable systems will be on par with home consoles released the same year and magically those games will transfer down to less powerful older portable systems?

Like seriously your post has zero logic in it. No offense. Just wishful fairy and dreams type thinking not based in physical reality.

If anything it's people who are obsessive compulsive about hardware linearity that have been proven wrong quite a bit. 

Portable only Switch that doesn't Switch couldn't happen because issues. 

PS4 Pro and XB1X when first rumored, you had a bunch of people saying you can't do that because that hasn't been done before. 

2DS version of the 3DS can't happen. 

Etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

If anything, these companies have shown they don't give a shit what a whiny small portion of the fanbase thinks just because they are obsessed with some stupid notion of brand uniformity. 

A pro model would certainly make Nintendo a lot of money, just like pro models have made Sony and MS a lot of money. 

If you got to break an egg or two to make an omelette, so be it. 

This post doesn't follow the argument you're attempting to make.

None of the things you just mentioned have anything to do with splintering a user base and forcing people to buy and carry around battery packs to play certain games. None of the things you listed break systems ability to play the games released for those systems, or force them to buy peripherals to play games.

I am quite sure Nintendo will release a Pro model of the Switch. But that's not what you have been pushing. You've been pushing battery packs and creating two different game libraries for the same system. I think you must work for the battery pack industry, otherwise your obsession with this makes no sense.



Nu-13 said:
Soundwave said:

Pretty sure Nintendo was 100% aware of what they were doing on the Switch Lite not being dockable and gave zero fucks that a small group on the internet was upset about it. 

Business is business. You want a Switch that plays on TV and you can pay $300 for that just like everyone else does. 

Business is business and the lite was terrible business. The definition of wasted potential.

I'm sure Nintendo had enough investment in the R&D to make the decision that they made for the Switch Lite.

We'll eventually see how the sales are for the Lite by the end of the month.



Slownenberg said:
Soundwave said:

If anything it's people who are obsessive compulsive about hardware linearity that have been proven wrong quite a bit. 

Portable only Switch that doesn't Switch couldn't happen because issues. 

PS4 Pro and XB1X when first rumored, you had a bunch of people saying you can't do that because that hasn't been done before. 

2DS version of the 3DS can't happen. 

Etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

If anything, these companies have shown they don't give a shit what a whiny small portion of the fanbase thinks just because they are obsessed with some stupid notion of brand uniformity. 

A pro model would certainly make Nintendo a lot of money, just like pro models have made Sony and MS a lot of money. 

If you got to break an egg or two to make an omelette, so be it. 

This post doesn't follow the argument you're attempting to make.

None of the things you just mentioned have anything to do with splintering a user base and forcing people to buy and carry around battery packs to play certain games. None of the things you listed break systems ability to play the games released for those systems, or force them to buy peripherals to play games.

I am quite sure Nintendo will release a Pro model of the Switch. But that's not what you have been pushing. You've been pushing battery packs and creating two different game libraries for the same system. I think you must work for the battery pack industry, otherwise your obsession with this makes no sense.

It would really only be OG Switch users. Even the new model Switch the one that's out now could accomodate higher performance undocked with no battery extension needed, the battery life would simply go back in line with the old Switch. 

I mean for $15 if you could suddenly access a lot of PS4/XB1 content that was previously locked out, I would say that's a pretty substantial win, imagine PS4/XB1 owners had the option of a $15 plug in device that let them play a bunch of PS5/XB2 tier games all of the sudden ... you think they'd be upset? 

No fucking way, lol, a lot of people would be over the moon if given that option. That's highway robbery in favor of the consumer and it would dramatically extend the lifecycle of the PS4/XB1 if something like that were possible. 



Slownenberg said:
Ck1x said:

Did people say all of this before PS4 Pro and XboxOne X?

For some reason it seems as though we act like iterative hardware is some new uncharted waters. So if a Switch Pro is coming out soon and say it's theoretically on par with base PS4, do we expect that next-gen consoles will come and developers will magically forget 150+ million PS4 and Xbox owners? Both of these systems will still receive some kind of crossover support just like generation before them for a couple of years.

People aren't even looking at this from the other perspective. What if the Switch Pro launches (way more powerful than current model) and starts getting lots of other AAA 3rd party games day and date with PS5 and Series X because of better parity. That could bode much better for the current Switch systems out there, because there are clearly plenty of port house studios that would definitely stay extra busy porting the OG Switch version, even if its 3-6 months later(which is already pretty much happening with current Switch versions).

Did people say all of what before PS4 Pro and Xb1X? Those systems were made to play games in 4k. They don't play different games than the base versions of those systems, or make the base versions obsolete for certain games unless you get some peripheral. They are purely for people who want to play in 4k. No user base splintering or confusing cheap marketing gimmicks to make games that can play in 4k be able to be played not in 4k.

Iterative hardware is totally not uncharted waters. Nintendo portable systems (i guess except a little bit with Game Boy Color) have never been splintered into certain games working with certain versions, and having to buy random peripherals to get the games to work with other versions. All versions of 3DS play the same games except for apparently like 2 to 5 games. New 3DS wasn't launched to make 3DS owners obsolete and get more downgraded ports of more powerful systems.

What you are describing in a Switch Pro (a much more powerful system) is a Switch 2. Also you are saying that next gen games will somehow be ported to the original Switch if there is a much more powerful new version of the Switch that splinters the userbase because somehow despite not getting much in the way of ports from PS4/Xb1 it will somehow get ports from newer far more powerful systems. So a new portable system will be strong enough to get ports from new games of also brand new home consoles and therefore those same next gen home console games will get ported to an older portable system....just because....in this theoretical world power differences mean nothing and suddenly this year portable systems will be on par with home consoles released the same year and magically those games will transfer down to less powerful older portable systems?

Like seriously your post has zero logic in it. No offense. Just wishful fairy and dreams type thinking not based in physical reality.

Dude I seriously had to re-read what you wrote 3x and its not that deep I promise...

: XboxOne and PS4 are at 150 million+ install base (developers will continue to include these in the development cycle) 

: If a "theoretical" Switch Pro is close in spec to PS4, that's a easier path to OG Switch possibly getting a port later.

All anyone in this entire post about this article are doing is speculating right now, so if you choose to take something as a matter of fact.  That's all on you not me!



JRPGfan said:
Jranation said:

Imo $149 is the price Nintendo can sell it during the holidays if it doesnt do to well. 

Switch lite is 199$.
A switch tv, should be cheaper to make imo.
I dont think 149$ is out of the question for it.

Sure. But if people accept the $199 price then they dont need to lower it until sales are declining. Which can go to $149.



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