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Alcyon said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

Halo 6 and future Halo's are coming out on PC, you know full well that it is.

Every single game that will come out on Xbox Series X will be released on PC. It's powerful but doesn't have the benefits that you get with a PC (customisation, long term upgradability etc.

So for the last time. Why would a PC Gamer buy an Xbox Series X?

"This is true because I say so". We heard the same sentence in 2013 'why buy a PS4/XBox One when all the games will come on PC?"

I know why console players buy PS4's, I know why Console players buy Xbox's. I know why console gamers buy Nintendo Consoles, I know why PC gamers buy playstation Consoles, I know why PC gamers buy Nintendo consoles.

I do not know why a PC Gamer would buy the Xbox Series X.Which is why I'm asking the question that no one has even tried to answer.



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ArchangelMadzz said:
Alcyon said:

"This is true because I say so". We heard the same sentence in 2013 'why buy a PS4/XBox One when all the games will come on PC?"

I know why console players buy PS4's, I know why Console players buy Xbox's. I know why console gamers buy Nintendo Consoles, I know why PC gamers buy playstation Consoles, I know why PC gamers buy Nintendo consoles.

I do not know why a PC Gamer would buy the Xbox Series X.Which is why I'm asking the question that no one has even tried to answer.

The answer is pretty simple - there is no reason for a PC Gamer to buy Xbox Series X unless he is lazy and rich enough to justify paying for it to put it under TV in the living room and play the same games that he has on PC from time to time.

The bigger question is - why does it bother you so much that you asked it at least thrice in this thread even though it is pretty clear that you are not interested in Xbox at all? That's seems pretty weird.



 

ArchangelMadzz said:
exclusive_console said:
On paper PS5 specs compared to X is much lower than expected. I guess Sony are confident 4K 60fps with those specs ? with the X it seems Microsoft want to get PC gamers onboard and core Xbox gamers from switching to Sony. Though if PS5 can undercut X price by 100$ I think they do not have to worry.

Why would a PC gamer buy a Series X?

derpysquirtle64 said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

I know why console players buy PS4's, I know why Console players buy Xbox's. I know why console gamers buy Nintendo Consoles, I know why PC gamers buy playstation Consoles, I know why PC gamers buy Nintendo consoles.

I do not know why a PC Gamer would buy the Xbox Series X.Which is why I'm asking the question that no one has even tried to answer.

The answer is pretty simple - there is no reason for a PC Gamer to buy Xbox Series X unless he is lazy and rich enough to justify paying for it to put it under TV in the living room and play the same games that he has on PC from time to time.

The bigger question is - why does it bother you so much that you asked it at least thrice in this thread even though it is pretty clear that you are not interested in Xbox at all? That's seems pretty weird.

Someone made the statement saying so, so I asked why he thought that.



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Zotac Nvidia RTX 2070 Super
32GB DDR4 Corsair Vengence Ram 3200 mhz
1TB Samsung Qvo SSD
Corsair Spec-Delta Case
Asus ROG B450-F Motherboard

Xbox buyers who say they have a PC do not have a PC.



Random_Matt said:
Xbox buyers who say they have a PC do not have a PC.

i am a Xbox player and i play in Pc too.

Gamepass ultimate allow me to play some good games in PC that are not in xbox (Valkirye Chronicle for example)

I dont have a gamer pc, only a laptop for work and emulators. I personally prefer to play in console, i like to be a peasant, hahaha.

Sorry for my bad english.



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Random_Matt said:
Xbox buyers who say they have a PC do not have a PC.

That's weird….could have sworn I've got a PC somewhere around here….



Random_Matt said:
Xbox buyers who say they have a PC do not have a PC.

I have several PCs.

Plays last gen stuff very well and emulators. I didnt invest in high end specs because I have consoles.



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derpysquirtle64 said:
Mr Puggsly said:

I never actually said MS should ignore or abandon those markets, I just wouldnt enocurage MS to pour significant resources there. Instead, keep making great content intended for the west, make competitively priced hardware like Lockhart and hope the best elsewhere. More importantly moves like that could help them thrive in the west.

For the most part it just looks like Sony took MS's marketshare from last gen. It hasnt actually grown significantly. Also, Sony is just making games the west enjoys and hopes for the best elsewhere.

Lastly, I think we all agree putting Xbox games on PC means more people will play their games. If many around the world are gaming on PCs, then porting games to PC should boost sales. That's hardly ignoring or abandoning hose markets.

Why should I as Xbox console owner even care about how many copies does Halo 10 and Gears 15 sell? The only thing I care about is from MS to provide a great gamin experience through their console and services. I'm way more interested in Xbox being an appealing platform for third party developers, so they will be bringing lots of great games to the platform. XGS games should be like an icing on cake. Additional reason to choose Xbox over PS, but no the main one. Because I doubt that any sane person would choose a certain console just because it has games from one certain publishers with everything else being more inferior compared to competition. Also, XGS hasn't really released that many interesting games, worth playing in the past 3 years, making it hardly to be the reason to choose Xbox over PS. I'm personally not interested in Sony exclusive games as well, but it is hard to deny that almost every game Sony released in the same time frame was a more quality product than every XGS game except maybe Gears and Forza. I personally prefer Xbox over PS just because in my opinion it provides a better console experience, not because it has Microsoft games. And I think if you ask any of 46m Xbox One owners the same question - why they prefer xbox over PS, the majority of these people will answer the same way that I did - not because XGS games are better or more interesting than what Sony offers, but because these people believe that Xbox provides a better experience to play games. Everything in your logic shows that you seem to fail to understand the huge difference between a publisher and a platform holder. Microsoft is not just a publisher, they are a platform holder and they have a certain obligations for their userbase. It's not just about selling games. If selling games is all that matters - then why don't just bring them to Playstation as well? It will boost sales for sure.

Oh lordy, I am not saying sales matter to consumers per se. I am saying more consumers will have access to their games via PC. Which is notable when we talk about regions where PC gaming is more common than consoles.

However, Xbox users do benefit from increased engagement and sales of 1st party games. More revenue could be more money put into games. Also games become less risky with PC revenue added. Do I need to elaborate on everything?

I agree MS needs to step up their 1st party output, more titles in general. Maybe the new studio purchases have something to do with that? In less than a year though we may get a quality Halo game. I also got my eye on Gears tactics and the Ori sequel.

Maybe MS have some interesting announcments at E3. Because obviously software is coming from recently purchased studios. Which is needed to hype Xbox and Game Pass.

If MS isnt selling games or failing to get people on Game Pass, that would suggest people really hate their software. Even with the general consensus of MS needing to step up 1st party efforts, they arent doing bad with user engagement.



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DonFerrari said:
 

Rely on 3rd parties they have good relationship with and compared to Xbox an exclusivity is totally different from "hope for the best".

Let's say PD have a lot more leeway than Evolution Studio could had ever got. Besides being semi-independent from Sony so let's not mix stuff here. And on VGC you'll get some very vocal people against GT if you look around. GTS sold more than GT6 and at it worse still oversell any Forza Motorsport so why would Sony close PD?

I think you misunderstand. 3rd parties dont support Playstation because a good relationship per se. Its also about viability.

Japanese gamers keep buying Playstation consoles because they expect good support. Wii U didnt get great support in Japan because it flopped in general.

However, Switch has sold great so many developers are jumping ship and making something of a prioirty. It didnt happen because a relationship went sour, it just makes sense for them to support Switch.

Now is Sony gonna moneyhat a bunch of Japanese games to fight off Switch? I doubt it but maybe. Is Sony gonna make a bunch of games geared towards Japan? Lol, fuck no! Hence, Sony will mostly hope for the best and I think thats fine.

I never suggested Sony should consider closing Polyphany. In fact, I was confused by the closure of Evolution Sudios given Driveclub sold well and they could get a game out faster than Polyphany.

Are we absolutely certain GTS sold better than any Forza game? I think they only announced player numbers. Individual Forza Horizon games were boasting higher player numbers than GTS, so we can only speculate.

More importantly, Forza had six releases this gen and each did good or great. That would mean Forza likely brought in significantly more revenue. Semi annual releases is also good for a service like Game Pass.



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Mr Puggsly said:
DonFerrari said:

Rely on 3rd parties they have good relationship with and compared to Xbox an exclusivity is totally different from "hope for the best".

Let's say PD have a lot more leeway than Evolution Studio could had ever got. Besides being semi-independent from Sony so let's not mix stuff here. And on VGC you'll get some very vocal people against GT if you look around. GTS sold more than GT6 and at it worse still oversell any Forza Motorsport so why would Sony close PD?

I think you misunderstand. 3rd parties dont support Playstation because a good relationship per se. Its also about viability.

Japanese gamers keep buying Playstation consoles because they expect good support. Wii U didnt get great support in Japan because it flopped in general.

However, Switch has sold great so many developers are jumping ship and making something of a prioirty. It didnt happen because a relationship went sour, it just makes sense for them to support Switch.

Now is Sony gonna moneyhat a bunch of Japanese games to fight off Switch? I doubt it but maybe. Is Sony gonna make a bunch of games geared towards Japan? Lol, fuck no! Hence, Sony will mostly hope for the best and I think thats fine.

I never suggested Sony should consider closing Polyphany. In fact, I was confused by the closure of Evolution Sudios given Driveclub sold well and they could get a game out faster than Polyphany.

Are we absolutely certain GTS sold better than any Forza game? I think they only announced player numbers. Individual Forza Horizon games were boasting higher player numbers than GTS, so we can only speculate.

More importantly, Forza had six releases this gen and each did good or great. That would mean Forza likely brought in significantly more revenue. Semi annual releases is also good for a service like Game Pass.

From all we know GTS sold about 6M units so it is higher than FM from what I know. And I'm not comparing to FH (which may have one edition outselling GTS, but we don't really have official numbers for that). This gen FM may have profited more than GTS, but last gen certainly not GT5P sold 5M, GT5 sold 12M and GT6 sold 6M (rounding from memory) that is 23M sales on basically 1,5 game (Prologue used the assets that were being prepared for GT5 and GT6 expanded a little but used most assets from GT5 as well). And sure GTS also received a lot of the assets from GT5 because at that time PD was already making models in anticipation for this gen.

We have had a lot of reports on this site about the confidence of Japanese devs on Playstation (like you see Persona exclusively on PS5, Yakuza was as well for basically the whole gen), devs saying PS4 was reviving the life of console gaming over there, several japanese developed games that made success outside of Japan and were temporary exclusive without any paying from Sony. That I can very much assure isn't Sony just hoping for the best. You don't keep yourself at the top only hoping for the best. Or MS strategy was hoping for the worst and that is why they keep being behind?



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