You suggested Gears 3 sold 20 times better than Gears 4. But now you're saying at launch Gears 3 at sold 20 times better. In semi educated opinion, that all sounds like bullshit.

According to this site, which only has physical numbers. Gears 3 sold 6.22 million, while Gears 4 sold 3.38 million. When it comes to actual digital sales its very likely Gears 4 has an edge there given digital sales became more common on X1. So this Gears 3 selling 20 times more argument just sounds like bullshit. Also, Phil claimed Gears 5 sold better than Gears 4 which sounds strange, maybe he just meant launch numbers, but that's what he claimed.

Again, Bungie left to make a Halo clone with RPG elements. Meanwhile Rare had to evolve because the games that made them successful don't do well on Xbox. Some of Rare's greatest success has actually been with MS.

Sony's games haven't been that creative to be fair. Sony for the most part has just been interested in 3rd person story driven experiences. They're having more success now, but that doesn't mean they're being creative or diverse with genres or gameplay.

What I actually like about MS is their games actually do feel a little more diverse. Due to their content being more gameplay focused versus story driven, I spend more time with MS games. But to each their own. Also, MS has more studios now so I think you will see more unique projects coming from them. That includes the story driven experiences Sony fans seem to enjoy.

Currently I believe MS is gonna have the low end and high end console for the 9th gen. They're hyping a powerful console, but the masses want something more affordable that plays the same content.

Well, there's no arguing taste, of course. If you love Halo, Gears and Forza and want MS to just stick to these 3 franchises for all eternity, then fine. I'm merely explaining why the vast majority will stick to a Sony console based on the exclusives both companies have launched. It was a huge deal when MS took over Rare but after MS forced them to spend a whole console generation making Kinect shovelware, they are now a mere shell of what they once were. I mean what was the last game Rare made that got decent reviews? 

Not trying to hate on the next gen Xbox because like I said, I think it's great if they will launch something with beastly specs. It's the reason why I loved the original Xbox in the first place. The whole thing about launching a second console sounds pretty terrible, though. The beauty of consoles is that developers can push the hardware to it's upmost limits while getting the best visuals possible on screen. Making all games native 4k and 60 or even 120fps isn't that imo. Basically we would be playing the same games we are playing now but at a higher fps and resolution, which isn't even that noticeable when you're sitting away from a tv. It would be way better if they were still locked at 30fps and 1080p (or 1440p) with a huge boost in overall visual fidelity and ray tracing. If developers would use the cheaper Xbox as the base console, all games on the proper next gen consoles will be seriously hold back because of it.

Kinect Sports was locked behind an expensive accessory so the success of that game is even more surprising. I enjoyed Kinect Sports, I actually liked the concept of Kinect but I don't feel like games relying on expensive accessories really works out in the long run.

I didn't really feel critical success was important, especially when you consider some of their MS content has aged better than many of their older and more critically successful content. I never understood the hype critically acclaimed Rare games, not aging well is a reflection of these games always being flawed.

Killer Instinct (2013) would have reviewed well over time. The critics just looked at the launch version though which was more like a demo of content. Sea of Thieves was a critical failure, yet it was successful even at launch. So the opinions of critics aren't always crucial.

If Lockhart is 4TF and PS5 is 9TF, it shouldn't be 1080p vs 4K. It might be 1440p vs 4K. But nobody should expect every PS5 game to be 4K especially if graphics are being pushed forward and developers aim for 60 fps. Those would be the experiences I would expect Lockhart to do 1080p.

But I expect Lockhart to have 4K content as well, as PS4 Pro and X1 do.

You suggested Gears 3 sold 20 times better than Gears 4. But now you're saying at launch Gears 3 at sold 20 times better. In semi educated opinion, that all sounds like bullshit.

According to this site, which only has physical numbers. Gears 3 sold 6.22 million, while Gears 4 sold 3.38 million. When it comes to actual digital sales its very likely Gears 4 has an edge there given digital sales became more common on X1. So this Gears 3 selling 20 times more argument just sounds like bullshit. Also, Phil claimed Gears 5 sold better than Gears 4 which sounds strange, maybe he just meant launch numbers, but that's what he claimed.

Again, Bungie left to make a Halo clone with RPG elements. Meanwhile Rare had to evolve because the games that made them successful don't do well on Xbox. Some of Rare's greatest success has actually been with MS.

Sony's games haven't been that creative to be fair. Sony for the most part has just been interested in 3rd person story driven experiences. They're having more success now, but that doesn't mean they're being creative or diverse with genres or gameplay.

What I actually like about MS is their games actually do feel a little more diverse. Due to their content being more gameplay focused versus story driven, I spend more time with MS games. But to each their own. Also, MS has more studios now so I think you will see more unique projects coming from them. That includes the story driven experiences Sony fans seem to enjoy.

Currently I believe MS is gonna have the low end and high end console for the 9th gen. They're hyping a powerful console, but the masses want something more affordable that plays the same content.

Seems like the story is a little different.

If Rare was independent they would have closed due to a big streak of low selling games, MS kept they alive. Also they were the ones that wanted to try something different and asked to work on Kinect and MS allowed.

Seems like the story is a little different.

If Rare was independent they would have closed due to a big streak of low selling games, MS kept they alive. Also they were the ones that wanted to try something different and asked to work on Kinect and MS allowed.

Well TVs are 1080p and 4k, so 1440p will need upscaling (and sure we don't know exactly what will be in the end, but I am going from the rumor of it being aimed at 1080p60fps, which sure may be wrong and MS do a clever 1440k internal resolution with native upscaler chip and deliver 4k that for general customers will be enough to convince them.

I don't think PS5 will aim for 60fps, that isn't the biggest thing on console gaming so far and I don't think it will be next gen. Sure some genres we will have 4k60fps (racer/fighters) some we may have 1080p60fps with upscale (like competitive FPS) and most will be 4k30fps (and sure some will even be less than 4k even on 30fps to increase other IQ aspects), still the 9Tf rumor on PS5 is unlikely (with both consoles launching together I don't think Sony is aiming for a 30% weaker HW).

I loved the concept of Kinect (will not comment on it not being achievable at that moment because of technology, but it was a needed step to keep developing over it and I hope it get back with more VR/AR solutions), but I can't say Kinect Sports was a critical acclaim and sales success because Kinect itself was the success and KS was bundled (KS2 sold very little in comparison). Still as I said if you consider the cases you pointed as success I can accept that without problem even though I enjoy their NES/SNES/N64 games a much more and don't think they have really aged bad.

Well, there's no arguing taste, of course. If you love Halo, Gears and Forza and want MS to just stick to these 3 franchises for all eternity, then fine. I'm merely explaining why the vast majority will stick to a Sony console based on the exclusives both companies have launched. It was a huge deal when MS took over Rare but after MS forced them to spend a whole console generation making Kinect shovelware, they are now a mere shell of what they once were. I mean what was the last game Rare made that got decent reviews? 

Not trying to hate on the next gen Xbox because like I said, I think it's great if they will launch something with beastly specs. It's the reason why I loved the original Xbox in the first place. The whole thing about launching a second console sounds pretty terrible, though. The beauty of consoles is that developers can push the hardware to it's upmost limits while getting the best visuals possible on screen. Making all games native 4k and 60 or even 120fps isn't that imo. Basically we would be playing the same games we are playing now but at a higher fps and resolution, which isn't even that noticeable when you're sitting away from a tv. It would be way better if they were still locked at 30fps and 1080p (or 1440p) with a huge boost in overall visual fidelity and ray tracing. If developers would use the cheaper Xbox as the base console, all games on the proper next gen consoles will be seriously hold back because of it.

You've not answered the original question. You said games are why people buy the console.

All the games that the new Xbox has that a gamer would want to play would also be on PC. So why would a PC gamer buy an Xbox Series X?

When were the Halo's games released on PC again?

Rare was hot shit before MS bought them in 2002 and MS ruined them basically so Nintendo couldn't have their games. Just read this if you don't believe me.

"Rare was always looking East at Japanese and Nintendo's games in particular, with their open-hearted childlike vibrancy and playfulness," explains Hollis. "Meanwhile, Microsoft had a US-centric style to its games, a flair of machismo and testosterone. For the first decade after the Microsoft sale the major problem for the creativity of the studio has been direction. Looking in from the outside it felt as if neither Microsoft or Rare could work out where it was headed."

From the inside the studio's gates, too, the changes to Rare introduced by Microsoft tampered with the recipe of the company's success, leaving teams feeling disorientated, and even downcast.

"For me personally, the atmosphere became much more stifling and a lot more stressful," he says. "There was an overall feeling that you weren't really in control of what you were doing and that you weren't really trusted either.

"There was also a gradual introduction of certain Microsoft behaviours that crept into the way we did things: lots more meetings, performance reviews and far more regard for your position within the company," he said."

Lets face it, MS isn't great with handling their studios. Of the 10 studios MS has acquired over the past 20 years, five have been closed, and two are still around but separated.

1440p is already fairly common on X1X and PS4 Pro and it looks fine. There is also new tech that apparently uses dynamic resolution on areas of the screen that need less detail. Resource efficient ideas can help Lockhart maintain an overall sharp image, atleast less glaring then some would expect compared to more powerful hardware.

Right now, it appears Sony will only have one model of PS5 and affordability is likely a focus. I dont think having 30% less power really matters. It won't make a world of difference. But we will see.

Kinect Sports didnt have any bundling I'm really aware of. No mass bundling at least. Kinect Adventures was bundled with every unit. Kinect Sports 2 sold less, but it seems like every Rare sequel sells less, it was their trend.

Hehe, I do like Gears and Halo. It also doesent take a significant amount of time to play them. I would like to see Sony create a good shooter that passes the test of time but it hasnt quite happened yet, period.

Forza has actually evolved significantly. How many other sim racers have turned into critically acclaimed open world games? The Horizon games are likely more popular then the sim games ever were.

I am actually bored talking to you, its just you bitching about Xbox content. The thing is I like Sony and MS for different reasons in regard to 1st party games.

Pretty difficult to top Donkey Kong Country 1,2 and 3 and Killer Instinct on the SNES... And then beat Golden Eye, Perfect Dark, Donkey Kong and Conker on the Nintendo 64.

RARE's titles haven't been bad on the Xbox, if anything I think they are criminally underrated most of the time, but they certainly haven't been leading the industry. - In saying that, the industry is very different than the SNES/N64 era anyway, lots more competition.