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I think it's impossible to ever predict what Nintendo will do



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vivster said:
I wish they would drop the name and choose something better for their next generation.

I probably have never disagreed more with a post in all my time here.



The Switch is the culmination of everything Nintendo tried to do before it so I sure hope so. I said this in a different topic but I would not mind buying iterations of the Switch as long as of course the hardware improves. Nintendo I feel wants to be Apple and as much as I hate to say it, I would be that guy who'd buy every Switch at launch. I've never felt so certain about a Nintendo product before the Switch.

It can be a home console, handheld, has touch, gyro, nfc, haptic feedback/HD Rumble, VR capability...the thing is basically future proof. However....Nintendo likes to try to act like they enjoy doing new things. Granted there's nothing really "new" about the Switch...but they think it's new. I hope the desire to shoehorn "innovation" into their products doesn't get to their head and let them lose their stability. Don't get me wrong, I love Nintendo's hustle to try new things but I don't want them Wii Uing themselves anytime soon.

Miyamoto keeps talking about setting a new standard for the controller in the future...that scares the shit out of me.

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Counter prediction: No.

Nintendo will just release a switch 2 when it's ready.

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Ljink96 said:

The Switch is the culmination of everything Nintendo tried to do before it so I sure hope so. I said this in a different topic but I would not mind buying iterations of the Switch as long as of course the hardware improves. Nintendo I feel wants to be Apple and as much as I hate to say it, I would be that guy who'd buy every Switch at launch. I've never felt so certain about a Nintendo product before the Switch.

It can be a home console, handheld, has touch, gyro, nfc, haptic feedback/HD Rumble, VR capability...the thing is basically future proof. However....Nintendo likes to try to act like they enjoy doing new things. Granted there's nothing really "new" about the Switch...but they think it's new. I hope the desire to shoehorn "innovation" into their products doesn't get to their head and let them lose their stability. Don't get me wrong, I love Nintendo's hustle to try new things but I don't want them Wii Uing themselves anytime soon.

Miyamoto keeps talking about setting a new standard for the controller in the future...that scares the shit out of me.

Trying new things is the only reason they're still around the problem with the view that they should stick to what is tried and tested is that that's a large part of what allowed Sony to usurp them on the home console front and had it not been Sony Sega would have done so instead as a large part of the reason their first party appeal is so unique is that their games and hardware go hand in hand both being designed and developed with each other in mind which benefits a lot from their focus on innovating.

When you look at their most successful platforms they did something new and yes even the Switch as the's no other hybrid form platform straight out the box and the JC is a new form factor that allows traditional and full motion controls in one, WiiU didn't fail because of trying to innovate either it had several issues with it that caused it to flop it's innovation is still around with the Switch it failed because Nintendo tried to go for a middle ground approach in pleasing traditional gamers and the new market rather than a focused approach this shows in the marketing as they weren't sure how to portray the platform as where as compared to Switch and Wii the marketing is very clear because they know what they're aiming to do with it.



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Wyrdness said:
Ljink96 said:

The Switch is the culmination of everything Nintendo tried to do before it so I sure hope so. I said this in a different topic but I would not mind buying iterations of the Switch as long as of course the hardware improves. Nintendo I feel wants to be Apple and as much as I hate to say it, I would be that guy who'd buy every Switch at launch. I've never felt so certain about a Nintendo product before the Switch.

It can be a home console, handheld, has touch, gyro, nfc, haptic feedback/HD Rumble, VR capability...the thing is basically future proof. However....Nintendo likes to try to act like they enjoy doing new things. Granted there's nothing really "new" about the Switch...but they think it's new. I hope the desire to shoehorn "innovation" into their products doesn't get to their head and let them lose their stability. Don't get me wrong, I love Nintendo's hustle to try new things but I don't want them Wii Uing themselves anytime soon.

Miyamoto keeps talking about setting a new standard for the controller in the future...that scares the shit out of me.

Trying new things is the only reason they're still around the problem with the view that they should stick to what is tried and tested is that that's a large part of what allowed Sony to usurp them on the home console front and had it not been Sony Sega would have done so instead as a large part of the reason their first party appeal is so unique is that their games and hardware go hand in hand both being designed and developed with each other in mind which benefits a lot from their focus on innovating.

When you look at their most successful platforms they did something new and yes even the Switch as the's no other hybrid form platform straight out the box and the JC is a new form factor that allows traditional and full motion controls in one, WiiU didn't fail because of trying to innovate either it had several issues with it that caused it to flop it's innovation is still around with the Switch it failed because Nintendo tried to go for a middle ground approach in pleasing traditional gamers and the new market rather than a focused approach this shows in the marketing as they weren't sure how to portray the platform as where as compared to Switch and Wii the marketing is very clear because they know what they're aiming to do with it.

Nintendo, contrary to popular belief, is not a company that's known for doing new things. Especially when it comes to hardware. They take existing technology and make it practical. That's where I'm going to leave this conversation. Hybrid consoles aren't new, they were around since the 90's...Nintendo just made it more practical. Touch screens had been around before the DS...Nintendo just made it more practical. Motion controls were around before the Wii...Nintendo just made it more practical. I'm all for Nintendo making existing technology more practical mixed with their timeless IP, but let's not act like what they're doing is "new". And I'm totally fine with that. 

Last edited by Ljink96 - on 27 December 2019

Ljink96 said:

Nintendo, contrary to popular belief, is not a company that's known for doing new things. They take existing technology and make it practical. That's where I'm going to leave this conversation. Hybrid consoles aren't new, they were around since the 90's...Nintendo just made it more practical. Touch screens had been around before the DS...Nintendo just made it more practical. Motion controls were around before the Wii...Nintendo just made it more practical. I'm all for Nintendo making existing technology more practical mixed with their timeless IP, but let's not act like what they're doing is "new". And I'm totally fine with that. 

Doing something new doesn't mean you only use new things existing technology has many uses an example was with the DS where touch screens were around for ages but no one really found a use for them until the DS showed the potential of the tech this is what caused Apple to bring out the iPod touch and iPhone so that's a false notion that they don't do anything new they've been doing new things for ages raising the bar and finding practical executions is doing something new as it opens up the potential for more it's like in sports you still pass the ball and such to score it doesn't stop utilizing a new kind of formation from being new. Do you have examples of pre-switch hybrid consoles?



Ljink96 said:
Wyrdness said:

Trying new things is the only reason they're still around the problem with the view that they should stick to what is tried and tested is that that's a large part of what allowed Sony to usurp them on the home console front and had it not been Sony Sega would have done so instead as a large part of the reason their first party appeal is so unique is that their games and hardware go hand in hand both being designed and developed with each other in mind which benefits a lot from their focus on innovating.

When you look at their most successful platforms they did something new and yes even the Switch as the's no other hybrid form platform straight out the box and the JC is a new form factor that allows traditional and full motion controls in one, WiiU didn't fail because of trying to innovate either it had several issues with it that caused it to flop it's innovation is still around with the Switch it failed because Nintendo tried to go for a middle ground approach in pleasing traditional gamers and the new market rather than a focused approach this shows in the marketing as they weren't sure how to portray the platform as where as compared to Switch and Wii the marketing is very clear because they know what they're aiming to do with it.

Nintendo, contrary to popular belief, is not a company that's known for doing new things. Especially when it comes to hardware. They take existing technology and make it practical. That's where I'm going to leave this conversation. Hybrid consoles aren't new, they were around since the 90's...Nintendo just made it more practical. Touch screens had been around before the DS...Nintendo just made it more practical. Motion controls were around before the Wii...Nintendo just made it more practical. I'm all for Nintendo making existing technology more practical mixed with their timeless IP, but let's not act like what they're doing is "new". And I'm totally fine with that. 

All of that is doing something new. One doesn't need to create the technology to do something new.



Wyrdness said:
Ljink96 said:

Nintendo, contrary to popular belief, is not a company that's known for doing new things. They take existing technology and make it practical. That's where I'm going to leave this conversation. Hybrid consoles aren't new, they were around since the 90's...Nintendo just made it more practical. Touch screens had been around before the DS...Nintendo just made it more practical. Motion controls were around before the Wii...Nintendo just made it more practical. I'm all for Nintendo making existing technology more practical mixed with their timeless IP, but let's not act like what they're doing is "new". And I'm totally fine with that. 

Doing something new doesn't mean you only use new things existing technology has many uses an example was with the DS where touch screens were around for ages but no one really found a use for them until the DS showed the potential of the tech this is what caused Apple to bring out the iPod touch and iPhone so that's a false notion that they don't do anything new they've been doing new things for ages raising the bar and finding practical executions is doing something new as it opens up the potential for more it's like in sports you still pass the ball and such to score it doesn't stop utilizing a new kind of formation from being new. Do you have examples of pre-switch hybrid consoles?

Nu-13 said:
Ljink96 said:

Nintendo, contrary to popular belief, is not a company that's known for doing new things. Especially when it comes to hardware. They take existing technology and make it practical. That's where I'm going to leave this conversation. Hybrid consoles aren't new, they were around since the 90's...Nintendo just made it more practical. Touch screens had been around before the DS...Nintendo just made it more practical. Motion controls were around before the Wii...Nintendo just made it more practical. I'm all for Nintendo making existing technology more practical mixed with their timeless IP, but let's not act like what they're doing is "new". And I'm totally fine with that. 

All of that is doing something new. One doesn't need to create the technology to do something new.

lol, making something more widely used doesn't make that technology new. Guys come on. When I talk about something being new I'm talking about it at its base level as something that's really totally new. New in every sense of the word as in "not existing before". Touch screens existed before DS, Motion Controls existed before Wii, Hybrids existed before Switch. I mean, this can't be too hard of a concept to grasp. The "new" you guys are referring to is making it practical like I've sad numerous times before. 

If you have to ask me to give examples of past hybrid consoles then, no harm done...probably shouldn't be in this conversation. 

Last edited by Ljink96 - on 27 December 2019

Ljink96 said:
Wyrdness said:

Doing something new doesn't mean you only use new things existing technology has many uses an example was with the DS where touch screens were around for ages but no one really found a use for them until the DS showed the potential of the tech this is what caused Apple to bring out the iPod touch and iPhone so that's a false notion that they don't do anything new they've been doing new things for ages raising the bar and finding practical executions is doing something new as it opens up the potential for more it's like in sports you still pass the ball and such to score it doesn't stop utilizing a new kind of formation from being new. Do you have examples of pre-switch hybrid consoles?

Nu-13 said:

All of that is doing something new. One doesn't need to create the technology to do something new.

lol, making something more widely used doesn't make that technology new. Guys come on. When I talk about something being new I'm talking about it at its base level as something that's really totally new. New in every sense of the word as in "not existing before". Touch screens existed before DS, Motion Controls existed before Wii, Hybrids existed before Switch. I mean, this can't be too hard of a concept to grasp. The "new" you guys are referring to is making it practical like I've sad numerous times before. 

If you have to ask me to give examples of past hybrid consoles then, no harm done...probably shouldn't be in this conversation. 

Except objectively they are doing something new regardless of how you choose to see it as the was no Wiimote before they did it, the was no hybrid form factor before they did it, the was no device like the DS before they did etc... You know what that means? They were new using anything in a new way is doing something new you're not arguing about doing something new your logic is now based on inventing something new which is a different concept entirely to innovation which is doing something new.

I asked to give an example of a device like the Switch to support your claim as so far I've found nothing of the sort if you can't give any examples then I have to take this claim as being false.