| WolfpackN64 said: I enjoyed it too. Look, I'm going to do a prediction. In 5 years, the discussion will have shifted from "the sequels were the death of Star Wars" to "the Sequels were ok". Sure, some people will never like these movies, and many people have legitimate reasons. But a lot of people really need to take a chill pill concerning the sequels. |
If anything, more people will cool on the films, not like them more. This is what always happens with these sequels. Hell, even the special editions. People loved the prequels, until we got closer to the 3rd one and people hated the first two entries. Then, they slowly cooled on Ep 3, as well.
People loved TFA when it first came out. Now, most think it was just ok. TLJ is probably the one people cooled on the fastest. I thought it was only ok when it first came out. Then, either later that day or the next night, my buddy came over and we talked about it. I realized I freaking hated that film. I decided I'm not watching anymore Disney SW.
Mr Puggsly said:
I would suspect the new rebellion would destroy what is left of the New Order or it disbanded. Apparently Palpatine was always pulling the strings that was even more significant than Kylo's death. Then they start the New New Republic or whatever. |
New Republic II: Force Boogaloo
thismeintiel said:
If anything, more people will cool on the films, not like them more. This is what always happens with these sequels. Hell, even the special editions. People loved the prequels, until we got closer to the 3rd one and people hated the first two entries. Then, they slowly cooled on Ep 3, as well. People loved TFA when it first came out. Now, most think it was just ok. TLJ is probably the one people cooled on the fastest. I thought it was only ok when it first came out. Then, either later that day or the next night, my buddy came over and we talked about it. I realized I freaking hated that film. I decided I'm not watching anymore Disney SW. |
As far as I know, people came to appreciate the prequels more in time, and I think it'll be the same for the Sequel trilogy.
Will these movies ever be great? I don't think so. As the prequels had many flaws, so do the sequels, but in time, we might see them for what they are. I've already accepted the most interesting material in Star Wars are the Expanded Universe materials. Rogue One, Solo, Rebels, Resistance, The Clone Wars (series), The Mandalorian,... These really flesh out the world in a way most fans appreciate and they're more focused then the 3 (eventually 2) directors approach of the Sequel trilogy.
I'm also pretty confident Disney will just pick one director for the next trilogy when that comes around.
| Angelus said: How many threads about this movie do we actually need? |
How many threads do you see? I mean I want to discuss it but I don't see many threads to have a discussion about the film. This one, one about review scores, and one about the box office. I may be missing something. I want to discuss plot holes etc.!
d21lewis said:
How many threads do you see? I mean I want to discuss it but I don't see many threads to have a discussion about the film. This one, one about review scores, and one about the box office. I may be missing something. I want to discuss plot holes etc.! |
The rise of BS thread has a spoiler warning in the title. That's where I'd discuss the plot holes
WolfpackN64 said:
As far as I know, people came to appreciate the prequels more in time, and I think it'll be the same for the Sequel trilogy. Will these movies ever be great? I don't think so. As the prequels had many flaws, so do the sequels, but in time, we might see them for what they are. I've already accepted the most interesting material in Star Wars are the Expanded Universe materials. Rogue One, Solo, Rebels, Resistance, The Clone Wars (series), The Mandalorian,... These really flesh out the world in a way most fans appreciate and they're more focused then the 3 (eventually 2) directors approach of the Sequel trilogy. I'm also pretty confident Disney will just pick one director for the next trilogy when that comes around. |
It's not that they all of a sudden like them, it's just that they say that they are better than the sequel trilogy. It's more to insult the sequels than to praise the prequels.
The prequels had some good ideas, but they were executed horribly. Mostly shot on green screen to have dated CG added. A horrible comic sidekick that no one likes. With stale acting as a cherry on top.
Their benefit, however, is that they didn't completely destroy the lore. Or have a boring OP character that took over the franchise. The only way this sequel trilogy will be looked upon favorably is if Disney releases another trilogy that's even worse. Don't really see that happening any time soon.
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thismeintiel said:
It's not that they all of a sudden like them, it's just that they say that they are better than the sequel trilogy. It's more to insult the sequels than to praise the prequels. The prequels had some good ideas, but they were excited horribly. Mostly shot on green screen to have dated CG added. A horrible comic sidekick that no one likes. With stale acting as a cherry on top. Their benefit, however, is that they didn't completely destroy the lore. Or have a boring OP character that took over the franchise. The only way this sequel trilogy will be looked upon favorably is if Disney releases another trilogy that's even worse. Don't really see that happening any time soon. |
Exactly. The one thing the prequels did right is lightsabers. No matter how bad the films were the lightsabers are still fun in those. The sequels they are butchered a d just infuriating
| DarthJarvis said: Exactly. The one thing the prequels did right is lightsabers. No matter how bad the films were the lightsabers are still fun in those. The sequels they are butchered a d just infuriating |
Depends. I do Historical European Martial Arts and I find the lightsaber combat in the sequels to be much more satisfying. Yes, the prequels are much more flashy, but the lightsaber combat in the sequels is much more visceral and closer how you would actually use a sword or saber.
DarthJarvis said:
Exactly. The one thing the prequels did right is lightsabers. No matter how bad the films were the lightsabers are still fun in those. The sequels they are butchered a d just infuriating |
| WolfpackN64 said: Depends. I do Historical European Martial Arts and I find the lightsaber combat in the sequels to be much more satisfying. Yes, the prequels are much more flashy, but the lightsaber combat in the sequels is much more visceral and closer how you would actually use a sword or saber. |
This had a reason.
The Jedi are the Jedi and not regular sword fighters, and through the Force they are capable of extraordinary feats. The prequels are supposed to show the Jedi in a Golden Age, at the height of their power and ability. Their fighting skills are supposed to transcend that of any regular person, which is why the duals in the prequels are so flashy. Even Palpatine, though one of the most powerful Force users ever, is not a Jedi of the prequel trilogy's age, didn't have their training and is clearly not in the same league as the better Jedi when it comes to lightsaber combat. After the prequels the knowledge and skill of the Jedi is lost, and newer generations are simply not as good anymore. Luke Skywalker never had a teacher for his sword fighting abilities, so he'll make do with how a 'normal' person would fight. Logically this lack of higher skill is passed on to the next generation in the sequel trilogy.
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